What are you babbling about? The person I’m talking to is pretty clearly neoliberal because he’s using all the same old neoliberal tropes and rhetoric to try and defend the democratic establishment, I don’t know why you’re bringing up some conversation you claim to have had with entirely different people.
You’re saying that people voting for Biden are defending genocidal presidents. I find it appalling that you would say this about people who actually have family suffering in Gaza.
This is a complete joke. You’ve actually already forgotten what people were saying to you. Why the hell should we take anything you say seriously if you’re not engaging in this conversation in good faith? Clearly, you’re not paying attention, and you’d rather scream into the void about how morally superior you are.
You’re saying that people voting for Biden are defending genocidal presidents. I find it appalling that you would say this about people who actually have family suffering in Gaza.
Again, why would I temper my criticism based on some likely-imaginary conversation you had. You know what’s actually apalling? Supporting candidates who fund a genocide. You don’t get to pretend to be scandalized and appalled by anything given the party politics you’re supporting.
If your totally not made up person that you definitely talked to is going vote for Biden it is still a long-term mistake that makes Democratic support for genocide acceptable.
It’s not acceptable and we have three choices as voters 1) Support Biden’s full throated no-strings support of full speed genocide 2) Support Trump’s full throated no-strings support of full speed genocide 3) Vote Uncommitted to communicate that Dems need to change their party politics around genocide support if they want to win elections.
Those are the choices, there is no “Biden will maybe change his mind once you reward him with power again and suddenly become less genocidal” choice, that’s a fantasy.
Yes. Supporting or not supporting genocide is about morality.
No. I won’t be convinced to vote for any candidate who supports genocide. Ever. For moral reasons, and because voting for that candidate would mean I’m communicating that support for genocide is politically viable for me. I disagree that genocide support should be politically viable.
You may be ok with Democrats supporting genocide, that’s your call. You can call it pragmatism if you want. It’s still genocide, and you still support it by going out and voting for a politician who supports it.
What are you babbling about? The person I’m talking to is pretty clearly neoliberal because he’s using all the same old neoliberal tropes and rhetoric to try and defend the democratic establishment, I don’t know why you’re bringing up some conversation you claim to have had with entirely different people.
Because you had this conversation with people just a few comments up the chain:
https://lemmy.world/comment/10311688
You’re saying that people voting for Biden are defending genocidal presidents. I find it appalling that you would say this about people who actually have family suffering in Gaza.
This is a complete joke. You’ve actually already forgotten what people were saying to you. Why the hell should we take anything you say seriously if you’re not engaging in this conversation in good faith? Clearly, you’re not paying attention, and you’d rather scream into the void about how morally superior you are.
Again, why would I temper my criticism based on some likely-imaginary conversation you had. You know what’s actually apalling? Supporting candidates who fund a genocide. You don’t get to pretend to be scandalized and appalled by anything given the party politics you’re supporting.
If your totally not made up person that you definitely talked to is going vote for Biden it is still a long-term mistake that makes Democratic support for genocide acceptable.
It’s not acceptable and we have three choices as voters 1) Support Biden’s full throated no-strings support of full speed genocide 2) Support Trump’s full throated no-strings support of full speed genocide 3) Vote Uncommitted to communicate that Dems need to change their party politics around genocide support if they want to win elections.
Those are the choices, there is no “Biden will maybe change his mind once you reward him with power again and suddenly become less genocidal” choice, that’s a fantasy.
Your reading comprehension is severely lacking.
Your moral center is non-existent.
Unlike Biden I do have a red line. It’s support from genocide, from any candidate. Full stop, do not pass Go, do not collect the lesser of two evils.
This isn’t about morality, I’m telling you that you can’t fucking read or you don’t care about reading.
Yes. Supporting or not supporting genocide is about morality.
No. I won’t be convinced to vote for any candidate who supports genocide. Ever. For moral reasons, and because voting for that candidate would mean I’m communicating that support for genocide is politically viable for me. I disagree that genocide support should be politically viable.
You may be ok with Democrats supporting genocide, that’s your call. You can call it pragmatism if you want. It’s still genocide, and you still support it by going out and voting for a politician who supports it.