Sure that’s good but also extremely insubstantial in a mildly frustrating way. At least start from urging for a ban on the oil products themselves rather than having already talked yourself down to what amounts to pissing on a forest fire.
A ban isn’t going to be suddenly imposed; it’s going to look more like “we stop subsidies for fossil fuels, and end advertising for them, and phase them out over 20 years”
So he’s asking for the first steps. Which is a good move.
I’m saying these first steps are too little, too late, though. We should be past this point by now. We banned advertising tobacco over 50 years ago, and we don’t have another 50 years to work with on climate.
The stances we take and the actions we push for should be reflective of the urgency this situation merits.
There is still coal, oil, and gas in the ground. There are forests yet standing. It might have been better to get seriously started a few decades ago, and we can’t achieve zero-visible-impact at this point, but we can still change how hot it gets before temperatures stabilize.
I’d far prefer to be getting started now instead of never.
From wikipedia. This is just from the section on US laws. That last part might be what you were thinking of.
In 1970, Congress took their anti-smoking initiative one step further and passed the Public Health Cigarette Smoking Act, banning the advertising of cigarettes on television and radio starting on 2 January 1971. In April 1970, President Nixon signed it into law.[61] The Virginia Slims brand was the last commercial shown, with “a 60-second revue from flapper to Female Lib”, shown at 11:59 p.m. on 1 January 1971 during a break on The Tonight Show.[62] After the television ban, most cigarette advertising took place in magazines, newspapers, and on billboards.[60]
Smokeless tobacco ads, on the other hand, remained on the air until a ban took effect on 28 August 1986.[63][64] Even further restrictions took effect under the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act.
Passed in 1997, the Tobacco Master Settlement Agreement bans outdoor, billboard, and public transportation advertising of cigarettes in 46 states.
Sure that’s good but also extremely insubstantial in a mildly frustrating way. At least start from urging for a ban on the oil products themselves rather than having already talked yourself down to what amounts to pissing on a forest fire.
A ban isn’t going to be suddenly imposed; it’s going to look more like “we stop subsidies for fossil fuels, and end advertising for them, and phase them out over 20 years”
So he’s asking for the first steps. Which is a good move.
I’m saying these first steps are too little, too late, though. We should be past this point by now. We banned advertising tobacco over 50 years ago, and we don’t have another 50 years to work with on climate.
The stances we take and the actions we push for should be reflective of the urgency this situation merits.
There is still coal, oil, and gas in the ground. There are forests yet standing. It might have been better to get seriously started a few decades ago, and we can’t achieve zero-visible-impact at this point, but we can still change how hot it gets before temperatures stabilize.
I’d far prefer to be getting started now instead of never.
A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step but if you’re running from a tiger you may want to take quicker, and longer strides.
Yes, but if you haven’t even taken that first step, take it.
Ok while you’re patting yourself on the back for your measured progress toward not being tiger food I’m going to keep shouting for people to run.
TIL: 1998 was over 50 years ago. Unless there was some place that banned it in the 70s?
From wikipedia. This is just from the section on US laws. That last part might be what you were thinking of.
In 1970, Congress took their anti-smoking initiative one step further and passed the Public Health Cigarette Smoking Act, banning the advertising of cigarettes on television and radio starting on 2 January 1971. In April 1970, President Nixon signed it into law.[61] The Virginia Slims brand was the last commercial shown, with “a 60-second revue from flapper to Female Lib”, shown at 11:59 p.m. on 1 January 1971 during a break on The Tonight Show.[62] After the television ban, most cigarette advertising took place in magazines, newspapers, and on billboards.[60]
Smokeless tobacco ads, on the other hand, remained on the air until a ban took effect on 28 August 1986.[63][64] Even further restrictions took effect under the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act.
Passed in 1997, the Tobacco Master Settlement Agreement bans outdoor, billboard, and public transportation advertising of cigarettes in 46 states.
Wow I didn’t expect the US to be so progressive with it, I was thinking of the EU ban that mostly got rid of the F1 tobacco sponsorships.
Except it’s not going to look like that, because oil tycoons own all the legislatures.