Awesome comparison between these flagship camera phones.

  • @Buffalox
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    6 months ago

    I must admit I like the Vivo way better, it’s sharper clearer and has better colors. classic Film is clearly inferior by now, and if you want that retro look, it should be an optional effect.

    I must say I’m generally impressed by Xiaomi cameras in general, but the blow out in light areas in many scenes is annoying to me, my Xiaomi 13T Pro does that too. To me it seems Vivo simply does an overall better job. Maybe experts disagree, but if it’s because they find the duller pictures more “natural” or "authentic"I think they completely miss the point of taking a picture to begin with.
    It’s absolutely amazing when the camera can see better than the human eye, and they can especially in the dark now. Human eyes are not perfect, and a digital camera should not be faulted for doing a better job. Like some professional photographers seem to believe.

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      26 months ago

      I don’t think most people would disagree let alone experts. The issue with vivo’s/Google’s style of output is that it’s hard to get right. With the current pixels they mess up hard because the moment you try to crop the entire image falls apart. This has been an issue with the pixels since the 5.

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        26 months ago

        the moment you try to crop the entire image falls apart.

        I have no idea why or how that would happen. Sounds like a software bug, you generally don’t crop while taking a photo, that’s something you do afterwards. So that doesn’t sound like a camera or filter issue.

        • @[email protected]OP
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          26 months ago

          I’m talking about afterwards. Because in the viewfinder it looks fine. But after it’s done post processing. It somehow loses detail as if they applied a dehazing filter to the photo. Idk how Lemdroid deals with compression but here is an example.

          Xperia xz2 premium

          Pixel 7 pro

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            26 months ago

            But if I understand you right, this only happens when you crop the picture? Are these taken shortly after each other? The clouds are VERY different between the two. If they are, the removal of the haze would obviously be the AI, on my phone that can be disabled.But maybe they cheat and have AI effects on anyway? I’ll have to experiment a bit with that.

            • @[email protected]OP
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              26 months ago

              Sorry when, I mean crop. I’m talking about viewing the photo in full screen mode/zooming in to fit the screen in landscape mode. That’s when I noticed these kind of weird effects happening like dehazing, over sharpening and this kind of loss of detail

              The photos were taken like 1 minute apart and the clouds are in the same position. Xperia was more true to the scene as in it was a hazy day. While the pixel was more true to the color science of the moment.

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                6 months ago

                OK that makes more sense. 😀
                It’s interesting how much AI can do, and that it’s sometimes bad, I never used the AI on my phone, because I couldn’t see any difference when using the viewfinder. So I never actually made a shot with it, because I thought it did nothing. So I used Occam’s razor and disabled it.
                We have a picture made for hanging on the wall, that my wife took, a hazy winter day with some snow, where the haze is what makes the picture amazing in our opinion. If the AI can’t be disabled, that would have completely ruined the picture!

                Still the camera without AI remains in some situations better than the human eye. Like a sun down that is too sharp to look at, the camera can capture perfectly.