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The results are showing up… Now we have to hope for the law to be declined… Already discussed about the chat control law of the EU, here : https://lemmy.ml/post/16469106

    • manucode
      25•7 months ago

      They will try to bring it back to life every few years or so

    • @Korkki
      21•7 months ago

      political elites in Europe are afraid and fear upheavals are coming in the coming years and months because of the cost of living crisis and the war. They try to clamp down beforehand to preserve their own power. This always happens when things go bad. The leash is kept looser when people behave and it’s tightened again when the opposite happens. There is no real freedoms that is given to the people by the elites, because what concessions they give willingly they can just as easily take away when they no longer feel like it. Provided that they think they can get away with it.

      • @[email protected]
        12•7 months ago

        It’s not just European elites who are afraid of upheaval. It’s all of them. It’s one of the reasons why they all have bunkers, why Zuckerberg is building another one in Hawaii recently. They know that we can actually do something about them because we outnumber them by a lot, so they build these systems of control. Governments, corps, elites have all become noticeably more brazen in the past several years.

      • @[email protected]
        9•7 months ago

        This is why we shouldn’t let such people to the government in the first place. Anyone who believes in “patriotism” and “national interest” (that appears to be 99% of people in the democratic world) will disagree though. It’s a matter of double standards, lack of understanding and care at this point

      • @[email protected]
        3•7 months ago

        But why can’t you just use software from GitHub or F-Droid or something that doesn’t have to obey these laws? Is it illegal?

        • @[email protected]
          13•7 months ago

          good luck getting everyone you know to communicate with you with “software from GitHub or F-Droid or something”. I’m having a hard time making people try out Signal, which is freely available on the major app stores (and which, by the way, has declared that they’ll leave the EU market if one device scanning will be enforced on them).

          • @[email protected]English
            8•7 months ago

            I think this would give me a reason to tell my contacts why I refuse from now on to use whatsapp for instance. I could say something like whatsapp now scans every single photo you send, therefore I won’t use it so contact me on some other place.

          • foremanguyOP
            3•7 months ago

            Signal is great but lack some points, like the requirement of the mobile number or the centralisation of the servers

          • @[email protected]
            2•7 months ago

            I wasn’t even talking about such cases. I was talking about people who need really secure and private communication in that particular comment

        • foremanguyOP
          3•7 months ago

          In fact it would be illegal but you wouldn’t take risks by using them. But the authorities could make them shut down one by one

          • @[email protected]
            5•7 months ago

            Even if this is illegal - how would such usage be detected? Your device just makes a request to a random domain on a random VPS, and the traffic is TLS-encrypted - would usage of XMPP/Matrix/whatever be that distinct?

            • foremanguyOP
              6•7 months ago

              I totally understand and this approval is absolutely ridiculous just because it’s almost impossible apply this… But even with almost 0 chance applying to every apps it’s better to kill this law as soon as possible

            • foremanguyOP
              2•7 months ago

              That would be difficult for sure but in fact it would be illegal

    • Daaric
      7•7 months ago

      Never, they’ll try again and again with different names, covered by different purposes and stuck to another law.