• @Hobo
    17•6 months ago

    I swear it’s going to be a generational change where it takes a slow adoption by the younger network people as the older network people slowly retire. Kind of like how racism and sexism has diminished. It wasn’t like we changed anyone’s mind, just that people held onto it until they died and younger people just said, “The future is now, old man.” and moved past it.

    • Semi-Hemi-LemmygodEnglish
      21•6 months ago

      “IP address are four sets of numbers with dots in between AND THAT’S HOW I LIKES IT!” - Me, an old network guy

      Honestly the fact that I can’t remember or type IPv6 addresses is a big reason I haven’t bothered figuring it out.

      • @Hobo
        11•6 months ago

        I imagine you sitting there like Scotty, “Give me an ip address, not no colon, not no hexadecimal, and not no bloody double colon. Just 4 numbers between 0 and 255 with a dot in between.”

      • @[email protected]English
        3•6 months ago

        So, my argument here is… Why the hell are you memorizing IP addresses?

        Is your DNS so misconfigured that you’re still punching in IPs by hand?

        DNS is the solution. Going to “router.domain.local” or whatever your internal domain is, is easier to remember than… Which subnet am I on again? Is this one 192.168.22.254? Or 192.168.21.1?

        Stop punching in numbers like a cave man. Use DNS. You won’t even notice if it’s IPv6 after that

        • Semi-Hemi-LemmygodEnglish
          4•6 months ago

          And what happens when DNS inevitably falls over and I need to fix it?

          And when I’m watching IP addresses scroll by, IPv6 ones are a lot harder to read than v4

          • KillingTimeItselfEnglish
            1•6 months ago

            some super gigabrained chad linux nerd will have written a tool to automatically configure it and have open sourced it.

            You could probably just use that. I think like most things in life, the answer is automation.

            • Semi-Hemi-LemmygodEnglish
              2•6 months ago

              I wouldn’t trust it unless I wrote it myself. And even then maybe not.

              • KillingTimeItselfEnglish
                1•6 months ago

                well then go and do it manually, surely you as a human wouldn’t make any mistakes. Would you?

          • @[email protected]English
            1•6 months ago

            DNS, by its very nature is redundant. So DNS shouldn’t just fall over. If it does, you’re doing something wrong.

            If you absolutely need to go to IP addresses, they should be documented.

            Unless DNS is outright wrong, there should not be an issue.

            For scrolling: are you staring at active log files? Who isn’t using a syslog aggregator? You can easily look up the IP of whatever device that is interesting and filter the log by that IP.

    • @[email protected]English
      10•6 months ago

      All I want to say about this is that the technology specialists, especially in networking, are usually not this opposed to change. Things change for networking and systems folks all the time. We’re used to it. Most of the time the hard sell is with the management folks who Green light projects. They don’t want to “waste” money on something that “nobody wants”.

      Legitimately, one company I asked about IPv6 said to me that customers had not requested it, so they haven’t spent any time on implementing it.

      As if customers know what’s good for them…

    • @[email protected]
      5•6 months ago

      Speaking of being an old man, let me tell you:

      “The future is now old man” != “The future is now, old man.”

      I genuinely tripped over this sentence thanks to the lack of punctuation.