Imagine how much nicer a world we’d live in if toxic men avoided alcohol for its supposed testosterone lowering qualities in the same way they avoid soy for its supposed oestrogen heightening properties…
Is this some sort of reverse not all men or something?
Either way - I don’t think people having a glass of whatever at the end of a day to wind down (and harming no one but possibly their own liver in the process) are comparable to those who drink excessively and turn violent and even murderous all in defence of their toxic masculinity.
(E: and no, I don’t drink, I just couldn’t care less what others consume as long as they aren’t harming others)
Is this some sort of reverse not all men or something?
No? I just wished for alcohol drinks to be banned world wide. Same with smoking and all the other bullshit that costs society a lot of money and decreases peoples health significantly.
But as I said - “either way” so my earlier reply still stands, and your actual reasoning is in fact even more gross than if it was an attempt at a not all men (it’s paternalistic, condescending, even authoritative, and ableist too - other people’s health is none of your business nor is what substances someone might use to ease their pain, and you, or any other individual for that matter definitely shouldn’t have any say in what others consume or how they enjoy themselves as long as they aren’t harming others. And no, you considering others a “burden” on the health system isn’t actually harming you, that’s just more ableism with a pinch of eugenics on your part).
E: Giving you the benefit of the doubt I assume you’re pro choice which really makes me wonder how you settle that “my body my choice” stance with this nonsense… (I don’t actually care, that’s just for you to try to explain to yourself)
Manly-men with alcohol problems in shambles.
Imagine how much nicer a world we’d live in if toxic men avoided alcohol for its supposed testosterone lowering qualities in the same way they avoid soy for its supposed oestrogen heightening properties…
Imagine how much nicer a world we’d live in if everyone avoided alcohol.
Is this some sort of reverse not all men or something?
Either way - I don’t think people having a glass of whatever at the end of a day to wind down (and harming no one but possibly their own liver in the process) are comparable to those who drink excessively and turn violent and even murderous all in defence of their toxic masculinity.
(E: and no, I don’t drink, I just couldn’t care less what others consume as long as they aren’t harming others)
No? I just wished for alcohol drinks to be banned world wide. Same with smoking and all the other bullshit that costs society a lot of money and decreases peoples health significantly.
Ew.
But as I said - “either way” so my earlier reply still stands, and your actual reasoning is in fact even more gross than if it was an attempt at a not all men (it’s paternalistic, condescending, even authoritative, and ableist too - other people’s health is none of your business nor is what substances someone might use to ease their pain, and you, or any other individual for that matter definitely shouldn’t have any say in what others consume or how they enjoy themselves as long as they aren’t harming others. And no, you considering others a “burden” on the health system isn’t actually harming you, that’s just more ableism with a pinch of eugenics on your part).
E: Giving you the benefit of the doubt I assume you’re pro choice which really makes me wonder how you settle that “my body my choice” stance with this nonsense… (I don’t actually care, that’s just for you to try to explain to yourself)
I’m not seriously suggesting that we ban all those things. That is impossible.
It’s just my wish since they are so harmful.
Either way your response shows that it’s not worth discussing anything with you.
Because prohibition works so well.
You sound very authoritarian. Makes me wonder what you mean by “all the other bullshit as well”
You just want to ban everything you personally don’t like?
Bleu cheese? Pineapples on pizza?