• @[email protected]
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    15 months ago

    Oh yeah but well instead of using the UEFI we probably should include libreboot or coreboot. But uefi is better than nothing but since its tuxedo we should expect some libreboot

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      Not “oh yeah” that’s a major concern and the biggest issue with ARM adoption. SBCs and ARM tablets are a mess when it comes to Linux support and one of the biggest reasons for it is the lack of an UEFI. Long term support as said is another very big concern, if you take any x86 box new or old things will work predictably because the OS doesn’t need to know the details of the boot process / low level hardware control.

      • @[email protected]
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        15 months ago

        I mean it should have libreboot or coreboot instead of uefi since its tuxedo afterall. UEFI is better than nothing but libreboot woulf be better

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          I don’t disagree with you, but maybe we can aim for UEFI right now on ALL ARM CPUs/boards from the vendors?

          • @[email protected]
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            25 months ago

            But if libreboot or coreboot is first implemented on arm boards, i think many vendors are going to follow up with the same. Then it would be much better since we don’t have to risky remove uefi for libreboot

    • bruhduh
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      You mean tianocore payload of coreboot/libreboot? That’s uefi

      • @[email protected]
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        15 months ago

        I am probably misunderstanding. So Libreboot does not “replace” UEFI ? Then what’s the point of libreboot

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          That it’s open source, vendor uefi is rarely open source, plus coreboot have many other payloads like seabios, uboot, grub

          • @[email protected]
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            15 months ago

            I mean if it does not replace uefi which is not open, whats the point. I am asking for libreboot because it is “libre”

            • bruhduh
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              15 months ago

              Tianocore is in libreboot too

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                  Tell me, what is “libre” for you, from what you’ve wrote so far, i see that it’s just new buzzword for you and you don’t understand what it is, read what tianocore is, if you don’t want it, to each their own, but tell me, how do you install OS on your pc without booting form usb/cd/dvd and not writing entries in uboot at least, and did you even installed Linux even once before?

                  • @[email protected]
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                    15 months ago

                    Yes. I am probably misunderstabding things. To my knowledge, libreboot is a FOSS alternative for UEFI. Correct me if i’m wrong. Libreboot exist to replace the proprietary uefi. Again correct me if i’m wrong. Since libreboot replaces uefi, it also would allow booting from usb, no? Checking libreboot website i saw tianocore mentioned in some release changelog which they will not be including in the default ones because its bloated and buggy. They say they use other payloads. I still don’t understand why tianocore is uefi.

                    Whatever if libreboot itself does not allow booting from usb, how would a libreboot user install any os at all?

                • bruhduh
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                  As i wrote before, tell me, how do you install linux without booting from usb?

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