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    135 months ago

    Idk, last I checked the European Honey Bee was native, but I guess you could prefer bumblebees?

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        125 months ago

        They’re native to Africa, Europe, West Asia & Central Asia, which covers around 3 billion people

        East & South Asia have the Asiatic Honey Bee which is closely related enough that their introduction wouldn’t disrupt the ecosystem as they fill the same niche in the same way

        That leaves only around 15% of the global population somewhere European Honey Bees even have potential to become invasive, so it’s a safe bet that they aren’t for most people

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          “Only the colonized need fear the colonizer”

          Native to PARTS of Africa, PARTS of Asia.

          Not native to any of the island nations.

          Not native to the Americas.

          More to the point they wouldn’t be as widespread as they are without human intervention.

          I am generally all for the pollinators of any kind but this meme has a good point and few people actually know that the honeybee is only prominent in its place because of humans.

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          Apis mellifera is a much better pollinator for most cultivars produced by agriculture around the world, so it’s been introduced into East, South and Southeast Asia too (and it’s pretty closely related to Apis cerana anyway, and they get along OK).

          Also, you’re not accounting for species uniqueness, which is highest in Australia/NZ/PNG, southern Africa and parts of South America. These places also have native bees that are outcompeted and outright attacked by Eurobees.

          The truth is complicated, but also simple - this invasive species we tolerate and even introduce because it massively benefits food production for humans.

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        That brings up an interesting point, they’ve been here 400 years, at one point does something stop being classified as invasive?

        If we say never, then the term invasive kind of loses all meaning, but I wonder where the logical cutoff might be and how it’s defined.

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          A commonly used definition of a non-native species in ecology is if it was introduced by human activity after the year 1492. Because the “discovery” of the Americas by the larger European society kicked off an age where humans started to travel to other continents much more than before, bringing animals and plants with them.

          Invasive species are non-native species that out-compete and displace native species.

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          -25 months ago

          They are actively spread by people even know and they are pushing other species to extinction, but yeah, maybe let’s not call them invasive and solve the problem that way.

      • @Aux
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        -75 months ago

        Humans don’t live outside of Europe.

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          55 months ago

          So true bestie, can you come pick up your European friends in Thailand for me? They keep trying to fuck the animals here.

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          15 months ago

          Quite so, quite so. Harrumphs