• Ada
    link
    fedilink
    856 months ago

    The majority of conservative cis LGB folk think that their version of queerness is ok, but other types are not. Anti trans LGB folk are one version of this

    • @disguy_ovahea
      link
      60
      edit-2
      6 months ago

      That’s awful. Just enough acceptance for them, and fuck everyone else. It must take a complete lack of empathy.

      • @samus12345
        link
        English
        136 months ago

        It must take a complete lack of empathy.

        That was already stated. “Conservative” cis LGB folk.

        • @disguy_ovahea
          link
          14
          edit-2
          6 months ago

          I’m sure. People listen to me because I’m a straight white man, whether I deserve their attention or not, so I leverage that to support people who are oppressed.

          I speak out against hate of every kind. I ask questions like this because it’s important to know where it comes from to determine the appropriate response. This I didn’t see or expect, but it makes sense now that it’s been described. I appreciate the explanation.

          • @[email protected]
            link
            fedilink
            English
            216 months ago

            Often it’s fear. They think if they’re a perfect, respectable minority, they can appeal to the kindness of queerphobes and win rights through sympathy. Sometimes it’s even trauma. Gay guy is used to being called a girl for his gayness, and is triggered to see a trans woman willingly taking that on. Or trans person is used to hearing helicopter copypastas and thinks otherkin are conservative trolls. In both cases, they’re used to being attacked with the idea of more marginalised queers, and think they can switch sides to the oppressor’s corner if they disavow the smaller minority

            • @disguy_ovahea
              link
              96 months ago

              That’s incredibly enlightening. You’re very insightful. Thank you.

                • @disguy_ovahea
                  link
                  8
                  edit-2
                  6 months ago

                  We’re not free until we’re all free. People won’t have any rights if they only fight for their own.

                  Soulism is for the liberation of gay, bisexual, asexual, trans, nonbinary, intersex, and every other queer identity. Soulism is for justice, sovereignty, and flourishing of black, indigenous, multiracial, immigrant, and global-south communities. Soulism is for additional options for divergent, disabled, disordered, and ill persons in either a recovery of their own will, or a life of their own choosing. Soulism is for the recognition and acceptance of otherkin, plural systems, and members of new religious movements and cults. Implementation of soulist ideas, including the ideas shared by the broader spectrum of anarchist thinking, will help everyone by giving everyone freedom of life and reality, but those most disadvantaged will most benefit.

                  Thanks for this!

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      166 months ago

      I’ve never met one of these people… I feel like they must be a monitority of the minority, right?

      • LinkOpensChest.wav
        link
        fedilink
        26 months ago

        I’m not sure where you live, but I’ve definitely encountered them in my extremely conservative state. Even here, they’re a small group though.

        Even being a small group, I feel like it’s still a problem because hate groups like the Republican Party can parade them around when convenient (until they are no longer useful – then see comic in post).

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          Cymraeg
          1
          edit-2
          6 months ago

          Can confirm, trans-exclusionary gay/bi people are fucking everywhere in (rural) Georgia in the US. I think the ones who are out who are “anti-trans” outnumber the normal ones.