Meanwhile the LPC oppose the bill while the CPC would work to amend it.

  • kbal
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    What a joke politics has become. Since the 1990s “protect the children” has become a perennial excuse for absurd legislation that does nothing of the sort, and not one party has learned how to stand firm against the calumnious deceit of the people who habitually abuse it. The Liberals feel confident enough to oppose this bill only because they have their own which is almost as bad.

    Strange to think that only a few generations ago Canada was known for “good government.”

    • Track_Shovel
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      145 months ago

      Protect the children, they cry, while permitting flavoured tobacco or something else as terrible

      • kbal
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        25 months ago

        Tobacco is the health hazard to children and adults alike, not the flavours added to it. But that’s another moral panic.

        • @FireRetardant
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          15 months ago

          Flavoured tobacco (and nicotine pens/juice) is more appealing to young people, especially those who aren’t educated on the risks and haven’t developed self control.

          • kbal
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            35 months ago

            It’s more appealing to everyone, irrespective of age. Wikipedia suggests that it’s been popular since the 19th century at latest. It was flavoured cigarillos that were the first tobacco products that tempted me, at a young age but not a child. Later, when I was much old, if pleasingly-flavoured vapes had been unavailable I would’ve had a much more difficult time quitting the nicotine.

            But anyway, it’s the misguided notion that enjoying things which taste good is childish that I find offensive. Advocate for banning all tobacco and I can’t really say you’re wrong to suggest it, but don’t fall for that nonsense.

            • @[email protected]
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              That’s the thing that people who want flavour bans don’t get, it helps people quit cigarettes cause it tastes good and gives you your nicotine. Yes it’s more appealing to kids as well but if flavours get banned then more kids will just start picking up cigarettes again cause they’re dumb kids(I was one too, no shade) and want to look and feel cool, and if their friends are doing it then there’s a good chance they will too.

              Idk what the solution is but banning flavours is just gonna push people back to actual tobacco which is absolutely worse than vapes. Kids are gonna use nicotine no matter how much or a fuss people make or how hard you regulate it, a flavour ban isn’t gonna make things any better and will piss off a lot of people that aren’t kids, including me.

              Fuck off and let me poison my lungs with fruity vapour if I want, that’s basically my retirement plan at this point anyways is lung cancer or liver failure.

    • mosscap
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      55 months ago

      If you really want to protect children, start by going after fossil fuel companies