• @PugJesusOP
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      643 months ago

      Like all things, we have seized it and made it our own. Like how getting Chinese food in an American restaurant only vaguely resembles Chinese cuisine. 💪

      • @[email protected]
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        Sure, but the Americanized versions of Italian, German, or Chinese foods were made by immigrants adapting their traditional recipes with ingredients they had on hand.

        • @[email protected]
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          183 months ago

          Just like how italian, German, and Chinese foods came about! America is just more recent and we tend to keep the labels of the influences ao it is more obvious.

        • @PugJesusOP
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          103 months ago

          Well, that and adjusting to suit mainstream tastes. Like how garlic bread is largely a Western introduction in Korea, but is preferred sweet there instead of savory.

          Development of cuisine is a fascinating thing!

        • @Anamnesis
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          I can’t speak for German or Chinese food, but having been to Italy, a good NYC slice beats anything the Italians have to offer.

      • @Droggelbecher
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        163 months ago

        To be fair Chinese food in Europe doesn’t have much to do with actual Chinese food either

        • @pigup
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          Dude I had sweet and sour chicken at a Chinese food joint in a mall in chemnitz Germany, it was a friggin schnitzel. Just with sweet sour sauce. And instead of potatoes it was a ball of rice lol. I found the picture I took here 🤣:

          • @Cosmos7349
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            If I wasn’t paying attention, looks like katsu curry until I notice the sauce looks like pure sugar. But ya nowadays everyone’s got their schnitzel variant 😂

        • @Aux
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          Depends on the restaurant, but in general - yes, proper Chinese is rare.

      • @Cosmos7349
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        I mean, tomatoes are a fruit native to the Americas, so even though pizza was invented in Italy, its invention is still tied to the America side of the Atlantic in some ways. Pizza has a very interesting past!

        • @PunkiBas
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          Pizza existed before they had tomatoes tho

          • @Cosmos7349
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            43 months ago

            I would argue that the modern understanding of pizza in Italy and across the globe is one that includes tomatoes. Things prior to that called pizza would likely not pass as pizza today. And it’s pretty accepted that pizza and tomatoes are very linked. Imo you’re being pedantic.

            • @uienia
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              Guess you never heard of pizza bianca then. Please try not to formulate grand theories before knowing just a sliver of the involved facts, thank you.

              • @Cosmos7349
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                Arguing that the history of pizza is not deeply intertwined with tomatoes is a pretty weird hill to die on

      • @samus12345
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        23 months ago

        It’s Chinese inspired American food.

      • @HeyMrDeadMan
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        To be fair, most of what I’ve seen of Chinese cuisine looks like dog yack, so I think we got the better end of the deal.

        • Drusas
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          Real, eaten-in-China Chinese food is amazing. Highly regional, though, so you may love one region’s cuisine and not another’s. Some of the best food on earth for sure, though.

    • MudMan
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      63 months ago

      Fun fact, in many places, soft-serve ice cream is known as “Italian ice cream”.

      What we are seeing here is a slightly botched traditional Italian lunch.

    • @samus12345
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      33 months ago

      Italian pizza is really different than American.

    • @IsThisAnAI
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      You clearly have never had Italian pizza. Not even close.

      Pizza is American unless you want to claim every flatbread is a pizza.