There is something deeply ironic about Kendrick Lamar saying “fuck the industry too”, on stage, to a massive crowd, sponsored by one of the largest companies in the world… https://youtu.be/8T5VxlU6HbY?si=MFQkI43fl9QYFSqP&t=9412
I’m not a big fan of Kendrick’s music but…it’s not really ironic. He’s calling out a very specific part of the industry that’s bad (the protection of artists by labels/other artists). He’s right - it’s insane that Drake is pushed so hard when he’s been a known groomer for YEARS.
Think he means the music industry, like record labels, and not The Industry or capitalism as a whole. Amazon isn’t a significant player in the music industry, at least not in context of the post. The music industry is somewhat known to protect its artists even if they are sex predators. Kendrick is alleging that Drake is a pedophile enjoying the protection of said industry. He’s not rebelling against Amazon or crowds.
I feel like Lemmy users are more prone to making things about The System when, often, it wasn’t about that to begin with. Also you left the share tracking in your link
Also, you can definitely criticize something whilst participating in it, even if you have a choice to abstain. Like I don’t have to eat spicy burritos, but when I do, I’m going to still complain that they haven’t made antacid suppositories. You can ask for a better life.
Kendrick is on that level everyone in “the industry” is just happy whenever he releases/performs anything. But he’s not like Drake or Taylor Swift where they’re only trying to make as much money as possible.
Like, what do you want him to do? Perform solely on street corners?
I know, right? Most popular artists nowadays will just take money from anyone and then will say corny shit like “I’m a rebel” or something along those lines. No self reflection.
that “ironical” situation has more influence on the world than a punk band refusing all collaboration and saying “fuck the industry” to 10 people in some shitty bar
to create may be to resist, like somebody wrote once, but what happens to that sparkle of a resistance when the song is promoted by a monster like Amazon or when Trump dances to that song at one of his rallies
Everyone has forgotten it ten minutes later. That time you partied with a punk band is a memory that sticks with you. It’s not all about reach, it’s about connection.
If there’s depth to your work, and you’re true to the ideals you espouse, then people will respect you and connect with that. Maybe on a smaller scale, but to a greater degree, and for longer.
Measure it? It’s entirely subjective and therefore isn’t compatible with measurement, obviously.
I think the vast majority of shitty pop songs fade away.
You should look in the mirror maybe. You’re still here, too. Arguing about something that doesn’t matter, against a point you don’t seem to have understood. I guess we’re as bad as each other.
There is something deeply ironic about Kendrick Lamar saying “fuck the industry too”, on stage, to a massive crowd, sponsored by one of the largest companies in the world… https://youtu.be/8T5VxlU6HbY?si=MFQkI43fl9QYFSqP&t=9412
“Yet you participate in the industry. Curious!”
I’m not a big fan of Kendrick’s music but…it’s not really ironic. He’s calling out a very specific part of the industry that’s bad (the protection of artists by labels/other artists). He’s right - it’s insane that Drake is pushed so hard when he’s been a known groomer for YEARS.
Also like are all the companies expected to dissolve to become a bunch of free lance contractors?
Think he means the music industry, like record labels, and not The Industry or capitalism as a whole. Amazon isn’t a significant player in the music industry, at least not in context of the post. The music industry is somewhat known to protect its artists even if they are sex predators. Kendrick is alleging that Drake is a pedophile enjoying the protection of said industry. He’s not rebelling against Amazon or crowds.
I feel like Lemmy users are more prone to making things about The System when, often, it wasn’t about that to begin with. Also you left the share tracking in your link
Also, you can definitely criticize something whilst participating in it, even if you have a choice to abstain. Like I don’t have to eat spicy burritos, but when I do, I’m going to still complain that they haven’t made antacid suppositories. You can ask for a better life.
Eh.
Kendrick is on that level everyone in “the industry” is just happy whenever he releases/performs anything. But he’s not like Drake or Taylor Swift where they’re only trying to make as much money as possible.
Like, what do you want him to do? Perform solely on street corners?
I know, right? Most popular artists nowadays will just take money from anyone and then will say corny shit like “I’m a rebel” or something along those lines. No self reflection.
Well, if anyone knows how fucked up and vampiric the industry is, its people engaging with it.
that “ironical” situation has more influence on the world than a punk band refusing all collaboration and saying “fuck the industry” to 10 people in some shitty bar
to create may be to resist, like somebody wrote once, but what happens to that sparkle of a resistance when the song is promoted by a monster like Amazon or when Trump dances to that song at one of his rallies
Everyone has forgotten it ten minutes later. That time you partied with a punk band is a memory that sticks with you. It’s not all about reach, it’s about connection.
you’re not going to “fuck the industry” with “a memory that sticks with you”
and that punk memory too will be forgotten sooner or later
If there’s depth to your work, and you’re true to the ideals you espouse, then people will respect you and connect with that. Maybe on a smaller scale, but to a greater degree, and for longer.
greater degree? how do you measure that?
longer? pop songs with no ideals seem to stand the test of time.
i don’t know why it’s so important for you to believe these statements 🤷
Measure it? It’s entirely subjective and therefore isn’t compatible with measurement, obviously.
I think the vast majority of shitty pop songs fade away.
You should look in the mirror maybe. You’re still here, too. Arguing about something that doesn’t matter, against a point you don’t seem to have understood. I guess we’re as bad as each other.