Can one sue Utah for gross neglience now? I mean, they got thousands of complaints from concerned citizens, and they only cared for investigating five of them? Or do they profile those complaints into “we are not investigating certain types of people”, e.g. politicians that have been reported?
I want to know how they “investigate” this bullshit. This is a complete waste of tax payers money…but since it’s from the party of small gov. And saving money its ok cause we have to know who’s got what equipment and going into what bathrooms.
All business’s should just swap all their signs over to unisex and be done with this bullshit.
Well, a huge chunk of those probably came from patriotic LGBT+ citizens cramming the reports with junk. Which is a good thing to do, but we wouldn’t expect them to do more than a cursory check.
Well, a huge chunk of those probably came from patriotic LGBT+ citizens cramming the reports with junk.
Of course. But they opened that snitchline with so much fanfare and claimed people using the “wrong” bathroom the end of the world. And then they only investigate five out of 12k reports. Now that sounds lame even for Republicans. What if they opened a snitchline on corrupt politicians? Will they only investigate five cases out of 12k reports? Such a snitchline would be much more important for society than reporting people using the wrong door. But chances are that they won’t open such a line for a number of reasons…
they may have had reason to believe the remaining complaints were not valid or not actionable or not in scope.
Maybe it’s my biases showing but while I can see the possibility that they’re not doing their job, only investigating a minuscule percent, I can also see possibilities that they were set up to fail, or that most complaints are obvious fakes or their scope is limited so most are not relevant.
I know I’ve never had reason to complain about the wrong person using the wrong bathroom. Have you? This really seems like a non-problem.
Of course im also on the side of fewer restrictions. Even back several decades ago when I was in college, the bathrooms in my dorm were coed, and we survived.
Realistically the only complaint I ever had was more age related. One time a Dad brought his kid in the changing room at the pool and did not use the curtained off area: she was really too old for that. She was clearly aware and uncomfortable being surrounded by naked guys - this could have been better handled. As a Dad myself, I let my kids go in themselves before that age so I mainly blame him being overprotective. Or at least I blame him for not using the curtained area that was right there that would have given her a little privacy
I’ve been in the men’s, had a women walk in and enter a stall, and didn’t give a fuck. We’re both adults. She either made a mistake or didn’t want to wait. Either way, it did not impact me.
Seems like it’s common out at clubs or similar events. Especially with alcohol, where people need to pee more often. There are similar numbers of men and women and similar numbers of facilities but lines at women’s get longer and longer until some just don’t care.
Maybe I’d care if there were enough crossovers to make me wait in line too, but so far I’ve never had reason to complain, nor have I heard any other guy complain. …. Maybe I should shut up before emboldening others to inconvenience me, but whatever
Can one sue Utah for gross neglience now? I mean, they got thousands of complaints from concerned citizens, and they only cared for investigating five of them? Or do they profile those complaints into “we are not investigating certain types of people”, e.g. politicians that have been reported?
I want to know how they “investigate” this bullshit. This is a complete waste of tax payers money…but since it’s from the party of small gov. And saving money its ok cause we have to know who’s got what equipment and going into what bathrooms.
All business’s should just swap all their signs over to unisex and be done with this bullshit.
A lot of those rulings are. But this would be fun to exploit to the bottom just to make it really hurt.
They review hundred of hours of hidden toilet cam footage. How else would you investigate?
It’s only 5 so far, reading the Bee Movie script takes a long time, especially when they have to keep stopping to sound out every other word.
They gave up at “aerodynamic”
Well, a huge chunk of those probably came from patriotic LGBT+ citizens cramming the reports with junk. Which is a good thing to do, but we wouldn’t expect them to do more than a cursory check.
Of course. But they opened that snitchline with so much fanfare and claimed people using the “wrong” bathroom the end of the world. And then they only investigate five out of 12k reports. Now that sounds lame even for Republicans. What if they opened a snitchline on corrupt politicians? Will they only investigate five cases out of 12k reports? Such a snitchline would be much more important for society than reporting people using the wrong door. But chances are that they won’t open such a line for a number of reasons…
they may have had reason to believe the remaining complaints were not valid or not actionable or not in scope.
Maybe it’s my biases showing but while I can see the possibility that they’re not doing their job, only investigating a minuscule percent, I can also see possibilities that they were set up to fail, or that most complaints are obvious fakes or their scope is limited so most are not relevant.
I know I’ve never had reason to complain about the wrong person using the wrong bathroom. Have you? This really seems like a non-problem.
Of course im also on the side of fewer restrictions. Even back several decades ago when I was in college, the bathrooms in my dorm were coed, and we survived.
Realistically the only complaint I ever had was more age related. One time a Dad brought his kid in the changing room at the pool and did not use the curtained off area: she was really too old for that. She was clearly aware and uncomfortable being surrounded by naked guys - this could have been better handled. As a Dad myself, I let my kids go in themselves before that age so I mainly blame him being overprotective. Or at least I blame him for not using the curtained area that was right there that would have given her a little privacy
I’ve been in the men’s, had a women walk in and enter a stall, and didn’t give a fuck. We’re both adults. She either made a mistake or didn’t want to wait. Either way, it did not impact me.
Seems like it’s common out at clubs or similar events. Especially with alcohol, where people need to pee more often. There are similar numbers of men and women and similar numbers of facilities but lines at women’s get longer and longer until some just don’t care.
Maybe I’d care if there were enough crossovers to make me wait in line too, but so far I’ve never had reason to complain, nor have I heard any other guy complain. …. Maybe I should shut up before emboldening others to inconvenience me, but whatever
Hey us allies helped out as well. I sent them my Fight Club Fan fiction.