• Björn Tantau
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    927 months ago

    I think every touch up besides color correction and cropping should be labeled as “photoshopped”. And any usage of AI should be labeled as “Made with AI” because it cannot show which parts are real and which are not.

    Besides, this is totally a skill issue. Removing this metadata is trivial.

    • @disguy_ovahea
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      7 months ago

      Some of the more advanced color correction tools can drastically change an image. There’s a lot of gray in that line as well.

      • @BigPotato
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        157 months ago

        DOD Imagery guidelines state that only color correction can be applied to “make the image appear the same as it was when it was captured” otherwise it must be labeled “DOD illustration” instead of “DOD Imagery”

    • @Blue_Morpho
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      147 months ago

      Cropping can completely change the context of a photo.

      • @IIII
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        197 months ago

        Sure But you could also achieve a similar effect in-camera by zooming in or moving closer to the subject

      • @hperrin
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        67 months ago

        A lot of photographers will take a photo with the intention of cropping it. Cropping isn’t photoshopping.

        • Fonzie!
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          -17 months ago

          If I open an image in Photoshop and crop it, it’s photoshopping.

          • @hperrin
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            You don’t have to open photoshop to do it. Any basic editing software will include a cropping tool.

            • Fonzie!
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              17 months ago

              So we agree cropping is plain and simple image editing, yes?

              • @hperrin
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                17 months ago

                Yes. I think the question was should it be labeled as “photoshopped” (or probably “manipulated”). I don’t think it should. I think those labels would be meaningless if you can’t event change the aspect ratio of a photo without it being called “photoshopped”.

              • @hperrin
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                7 months ago

                There are absolutely different levels of image editing. Color correction, cropping, scale, and rotation are basic enough that I would say they don’t even count as alterations. They’re just correcting what the camera didn’t, and often available in the camera’s built in software. (Fun fact, what the sensor sees is not what it presents you in a jpeg.) Then there are more deceptive levels of editing, like removing or adding objects, altering someone’s appearance, swapping faces from different shots. Those are definitely image alterations, and what most people mean when they say an image is “photoshopped” (and you know that, don’t lie). Then there’s AI, where you’re just generating new information to put into the image. That’s extreme image alteration.

                These all can be done with or without any sort of nefarious intent.

                  • @hperrin
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                    7 months ago

                    I literally described to you what people mean by “photoshopping” in the comment you’re responding to. Can you really not tell that I know that? Also, dropping the r slur will definitely help get your point across, right? You’re really living up to your username.

    • @JusticeForPorygon
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      127 months ago

      Agreed. Photo editing has great applications but we can’t pretend it’s never used maliciously.

    • @piecat
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      57 months ago

      Film too, any trickery in the darkroom should be labeled because it cannot show which parts are real and which are not.

    • @gedaliyah
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      47 months ago

      Why label it if it is trivial to avoid the label?

      Doesn’t that mean that bad actors will have additional cover for misise of AI?