• @givesomefucksOP
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      -238 months ago

      This isn’t happening in a vacuum.

      Hezbollah and Russia have a defense treaty with some others like Iraq and Iran. Russia and NK just signed one.

      Russia is losing in Ukraine, and none of the countries next to Israel can stand against a US backed Israel.

      WW2 was because some minor dude got shot and treaties pulled everyone in. What’s going on now could definitely make WW3 pop off, it doesn’t take much historically

      • AmidFuror
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        188 months ago

        TIL WW2 started with the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand.

        • @Daveyborn
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          48 months ago

          WW1 set the stage for WW2 to be fair. 2 as we know it wouldn’t have happened without 1.

          • AmidFuror
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            68 months ago

            I suppose if WW1 hadn’t happened, we wouldn’t have called it WW2.

            • @Daveyborn
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              38 months ago

              I do think he confused 1 and 2 when he wrote that statement though. I actually think 2 wouldn’t have happened at all without the effects of 1.

          • Flying Squid
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            28 months ago

            And the Wars of the Roses (amongst other things) set the stage for WW1. That’s just cause and effect, not some sort of profundity.

            • @Daveyborn
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              08 months ago

              It’s not profound, it’s what I learned in middle school.

              • Flying Squid
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                18 months ago

                Okay, but that’s all of history. One thing leads to another. The problem is, you can’t say what would have happened if things went differently.

                Would there have been no Nazi party if World War I never happened? Was Hitler’s rise to power in part due to his experiences in World War I and the economic crisis Germany was put in due, in part, to World War I? We have no way of knowing.

                Maybe if Victoria and Albert hadn’t married, World War I would still have happened, but been even worse because there would have been even greater enmity between the British and the Germans. We can’t know. The best we can do is write speculative fiction.

                • @Daveyborn
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                  08 months ago

                  Good thing I wasn’t grabbing all of history in my statement then, just 2 plot points.

                  • Flying Squid
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                    18 months ago

                    Did you not read past the first paragraph? Everything else I wrote was about WWI and WWII. I literally talked about Hitler.