I just read this point in a comment and wanted to bring it to the spotlight.
Meta has practically unlimited resources. They will make access to the fediverse fast with their top tier servers.
As per my understanding this will make small instances less desirable to the common user. And the effects will be:
- Meta can and will unethically defedrate from instances which are a theat to them. Which the majority of the population won’t care about, again making the small instances obsolete.
- When majority of the content is on the Meta servers they can and will provide fast access to it and unethically slow down access to the content from outside instances. This will be noticeable but cannot be proved, and in the end the common users just won’t care. They will use Threads because its faster.
This is just what i could think of, there are many more ways to be evil. Meta has the best engineers in the world who will figure out more discrete and impactful ways to harm the small instances.
Privacy: I know they can scrape data from the fediverse right now. That’s not a problem. The problem comes when they launch their own Android / iOS app and collect data about my search and what kind of Camel milk I like.
My thoughts: I think building our own userbase is better than federating with an evil corp. with unlimited resources and talent which they will use to destroy the federation just to get a few users.
I hope this post reaches the instance admins. The Cons outweigh the Pros in this case.
We couldn’t get the people to use Signal. This is our chance to make a change.
Defederation doesn’t prevent that from happening at all. They don’t need us to do that, and I’m sure they’ll absolutely be doing stuff like that. It just doesn’t affect our servers in any way.
The idea that they can lure in people currently on the Fediverse just doesn’t seem realistic to me. Look at how many people have had an immediate reaction to completely block them; you think this is fertile ground for recruitment, really?
Oh so we should just do absolutely nothing, create absolutely no culture of opposition, and allow it to happen considerably more easily then!
Fuck me it’s always americans with this attitude. Completely housebroken people that oppose even the bare minimum of piss easy resistance to corporate control and then wonder why they’re the only fucking country without healthcare, basic consumer protections or uhhhh child labour laws.
The idea that there’s only two options, doing nothing or complete pre-emptive defederation, is not accurate. If we can’t even acknowledge that, I don’t think this conversation will be productive.
Those are the options, the third option you’re trying to pretend exists is just stringing everyone along until doing it later, only naive idiots would fall for it. It’s costing this instance subreddits that were planning to move here as well. Up until now we were on the cusp of moving here and directing users from our subreddits to move here. That has been thrown out the window and we’re now looking at others.