Project92 and the Fediverse - A Smarter Battle Plan to Protect the Open Social Web
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With the upcoming #meta #Project92 Fediverse service, there has been a, well, robust discussion of how to avoid threats looming. Those advocating mass-preemptive defederation make three cases for it. ➡️ To avoid data mining … However, defederation does virtually zero to avoid any big tech entity scraping all the Fediverse public social graph today - Want proof? See here: is.gd/q8U2pv But what if they merge that Fediverse data with their own internal data from IG isn’t that worse than just scraped data?

It is expected to be 2-3 months before Threads is ready to federate (see link). There will, inevitably, be five different reactions from instances:

  1. Federate regardless (mostly the toxic instances everyone else blocks)

  2. Federate with extreme caution and good preparation (some instances with the resources and remit from their users)

  3. Defederate (wait and see)

  4. Defederate with the intention of staying defederated

  5. Defederate with all Threads-federated instances too

It’s all good. Instances should do what works best for them and people should make their home with the instances that have the moderation policies they want.

In the interests of instances which choose options 2 or 3, perhaps we could start to build a pre-emptive block list for known bad actors on Threads?

I’m not on it but I think a fair few people are? And there are various commentaries which name some of the obvious offenders.

  • samothtiger
    -7•1 year ago

    If 9 regular people sit down with a nazi without protest, you have 10 nazis. Threads will absolutely not stop nazis from posting nazi stuff. We know this because Facebook is full of nazis. Why would anyone want nazis at their table? Because they’re nazis. Anyone who wants to federate with Threads is a nazi. Do you want to federate with nazis? Option 5 is really the only way to keep the nazis away from the table. This is not an exaggeration. There are literal nazis given free reign on Facebook. There will be literal nazis given free reign on Threads. If you don’t stop the nazis because you want to interact with your friends who interact with nazis, you’re enabling nazis. Don’t enable nazis. I can’t stress enough they are literally nazis.

    • DaDragon
      2•1 year ago

      What does Threads have to do with Nazis? We are talking about the new Twitter competitor from Meta, right?

      • starlinguk
        6•1 year ago

        I’m really worried that people are this ignorant about Meta/Facebook.

      • AnonymousLlama
        2•1 year ago

        Apparently this guy thinks Nazis are everywhere. Almost reminds me of Russian propaganda, Ukraine is full of Nazis we need to go over there and clean house etc.

        It sounds like they just don’t like people with differing opinions and anyone who doesn’t toe the line must be a Nazi or Nazi sympathiser 🙄

      • samothtiger
        -2•1 year ago

        Meta enables nazis. I spelled it out right in my comment step by step. Did you read past the first line?

      • samothtiger
        1•1 year ago

        Are you saying people who call themselves nazis and wear nazi memorabilia and fly swastikas and are antisemites and think the nazis were the good guys during WWII are not literally nazis? Because I’ve got news for you, buddy. They’re nazis. Literally.