Oh shit, my bad, iheartcheese. I didn’t realize this space was restricted exclusively for high quality discourse. Judging from the beans, denim, tits, cats, and propaganda littering the front page of any non-filtered Lemmy aggregate, and given the general theme of a place called justpost, I just took it for granted that general shittery was the norm rather than the exception, ergo: memes, cliches, etc., welcome. My sincerest apologies. Obviously I’m the asshole here.
Hailcorporate is supposed to be a way of calling out marketing posts disguised as real events.
Considering the note was signed “your neighbor” and outlines a set of events that would be incredibly unlikely in real life, and there’s a specific brand called out to “stop this from happening to you”…
I’m not OP and I’m not the person you were replying to, and maybe this makes me a cynic, but since it doesn’t matter either way for this post I’d say the advice to protect your catalytic converter is good advice and I’m going to intentionally avoid the named brand on the likelihood that they tried to guerilla market and have people spread their ad for them which is what I see.
and I’m going to intentionally avoid the named brand on the likelihood that they tried to guerilla market and have people spread their ad for them which is what I see.
I think that’s a bad idea just because if this is not guerilla marketing, it might actually be the best choice. The thing to do is research the brand.
I disagree, but I’m willing to accept it as my hangup. It’s potentially problematic, but I feel a strong hatred towards being manipulated into buying something. I feel that way about this product, and am actively choosing to never consider giving them money because of that.
If it weren’t a catalytic converter protector, maybe I’d give them more consideration, but seeing as how this is literally a strip of conductive material that sets off an alarm if it’s cut as compared to beefier metal options that will physically delay and deter thieves, and I don’t live in an area with really much of any rate of catalytic converter theft, and I don’t like what I’ve perceived to be a scummy marketing tactic, I’m out.
I have no idea what the product is like in this case, so that’s fair. And I would, of course, not presume to tell you how to spend your money. I guess I’m thinking about similar “friendly suggestions” I have gotten to use Linux over the years which, if I didn’t know Linux wasn’t (inherently) commercial, might have thought meant that Linux was an inferior product that was being guerilla marketed. And I would only know that by looking it up.
Not the best analogy, but I hope you understand what I’m trying to say.
That was how it started. But then they ‘grew’ and started saying any time a normal person posts anything with the name of a product they are doing so because corporate brain washing has affected them and they are doing so against their will. Seriously, go look at the side bar on their sub. it says so.
I seriously doubt this is an ad because…well…who’s gonna bother with fake ad posts on this tiny pointless little corner of the web? So…he must be one of the brainwashing flavor of crazies.
I’ll clarify my own take separate from the discussion of the original subreddit: I don’t think an advertising person posted this to Lemmy, I think an advertising person made the original photo, shared it on probably Facebook, got enough organic interaction for other people to start sharing it with good intentions and without much thought as to whether it actually happened or not, and OP saw and posted it here after it filtered out to the wider internet.
I can see how someone would say that what I described is brainwashing with extra steps, but I think of it more as an exploitation by marketers who know that people don’t usually expend more critical thinking on ultimately harmless pictures shared online.
I dunno, it’s a hard thing to be militant about, because it’s always a personal read.
When I was working for a summer camp watching over preteens, they had a game night in the cabin with Apples to Apples (a Cards Against Humanity for kids (which I believe predates CAH but more people are likely to know that then apples to apples)). One of them was getting frustrated that their answers weren’t getting picked, and I decided at the time to mention something along the lines of “well, maybe he likes less serious answers and likes more sarcastic ones”.
They latched on, and from that moment forward all they could talk about was how variously much they either liked or didn’t like sarcasm, and would ask every round whether the judge for the round “was sarcastic or not”.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the same filtered parroting is what you’re against, and if so I would agree and also say that I do think that the call-out is appropriate on this post. I don’t want to put words in your mouth though, so if I’m off-base I’ll be happy to stand corrected.
Oh shit, my bad, iheartcheese. I didn’t realize this space was restricted exclusively for high quality discourse. Judging from the beans, denim, tits, cats, and propaganda littering the front page of any non-filtered Lemmy aggregate, and given the general theme of a place called justpost, I just took it for granted that general shittery was the norm rather than the exception, ergo: memes, cliches, etc., welcome. My sincerest apologies. Obviously I’m the asshole here.
so brave
So…it was a joke? You aren’t actually one of those morons who believe corporate brain washing made him post this?
Hailcorporate is supposed to be a way of calling out marketing posts disguised as real events.
Considering the note was signed “your neighbor” and outlines a set of events that would be incredibly unlikely in real life, and there’s a specific brand called out to “stop this from happening to you”…
I’m not OP and I’m not the person you were replying to, and maybe this makes me a cynic, but since it doesn’t matter either way for this post I’d say the advice to protect your catalytic converter is good advice and I’m going to intentionally avoid the named brand on the likelihood that they tried to guerilla market and have people spread their ad for them which is what I see.
Based.
Must read.
I think that’s a bad idea just because if this is not guerilla marketing, it might actually be the best choice. The thing to do is research the brand.
I disagree, but I’m willing to accept it as my hangup. It’s potentially problematic, but I feel a strong hatred towards being manipulated into buying something. I feel that way about this product, and am actively choosing to never consider giving them money because of that.
If it weren’t a catalytic converter protector, maybe I’d give them more consideration, but seeing as how this is literally a strip of conductive material that sets off an alarm if it’s cut as compared to beefier metal options that will physically delay and deter thieves, and I don’t live in an area with really much of any rate of catalytic converter theft, and I don’t like what I’ve perceived to be a scummy marketing tactic, I’m out.
I have no idea what the product is like in this case, so that’s fair. And I would, of course, not presume to tell you how to spend your money. I guess I’m thinking about similar “friendly suggestions” I have gotten to use Linux over the years which, if I didn’t know Linux wasn’t (inherently) commercial, might have thought meant that Linux was an inferior product that was being guerilla marketed. And I would only know that by looking it up.
Not the best analogy, but I hope you understand what I’m trying to say.
Yeah, my approach is definitely not “one size fits all”, but in this case I feel fine about it.
Fuck me, you managed to shoehorn your use of linux into a conversation about cars. Bravo.
It was the first example I could think of off the top of my head. I honestly don’t give a shit if someone doesn’t use Linux.
That was how it started. But then they ‘grew’ and started saying any time a normal person posts anything with the name of a product they are doing so because corporate brain washing has affected them and they are doing so against their will. Seriously, go look at the side bar on their sub. it says so.
I seriously doubt this is an ad because…well…who’s gonna bother with fake ad posts on this tiny pointless little corner of the web? So…he must be one of the brainwashing flavor of crazies.
In other words…a moron.
I’ll clarify my own take separate from the discussion of the original subreddit: I don’t think an advertising person posted this to Lemmy, I think an advertising person made the original photo, shared it on probably Facebook, got enough organic interaction for other people to start sharing it with good intentions and without much thought as to whether it actually happened or not, and OP saw and posted it here after it filtered out to the wider internet.
I can see how someone would say that what I described is brainwashing with extra steps, but I think of it more as an exploitation by marketers who know that people don’t usually expend more critical thinking on ultimately harmless pictures shared online.
I dunno, it’s a hard thing to be militant about, because it’s always a personal read.
When I was working for a summer camp watching over preteens, they had a game night in the cabin with Apples to Apples (a Cards Against Humanity for kids (which I believe predates CAH but more people are likely to know that then apples to apples)). One of them was getting frustrated that their answers weren’t getting picked, and I decided at the time to mention something along the lines of “well, maybe he likes less serious answers and likes more sarcastic ones”.
They latched on, and from that moment forward all they could talk about was how variously much they either liked or didn’t like sarcasm, and would ask every round whether the judge for the round “was sarcastic or not”.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the same filtered parroting is what you’re against, and if so I would agree and also say that I do think that the call-out is appropriate on this post. I don’t want to put words in your mouth though, so if I’m off-base I’ll be happy to stand corrected.
Not related to your main point, but Apples to Apples is my favourite card game, and I’ve never heard of Cards Against Humanity
we were on your side until you kept talking
Who is “we”?