• @Dasus
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    04 months ago

    I am.

    The point is that him demanding there’s “both sides” to this is true as much as it would be true that “both sides claim the other has false science” when arguing Flat Earthers.

    It’s disingenious and bad faith to pretend there are “both sides” to this. There aren’t.

    I can show you thousands of pages and people talking about Israel committing genocide on Palestine.

    Can you show me a single page where anyone says that PALESTINE is committing trying to commit genocide?

    Hint: google “palestine genocide” and “israel genocide” and tell me just how many links concern Palestinians being the victims of a genocide and how many there are saying they’re committing one?

    Yes, Israel loves to yell about “Hamas is trying to kill us” but Hamas isn’t Palestine and an attack on a country doesn’t qualify as genocide. Not to even mention how hypocritical it is of Israel to accuse Hamas of a genocide in the current situation when they’re fervently trying to deny the genocide they’re committing in broad daylight. Almost as ironic as you saying my arguing is poor. Thanks for the laughs, lol.

    • @AngryCommieKender
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      04 months ago

      He never claimed that. Your anger fueled tirades put those words in his mouth.

      • @Dasus
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        04 months ago

        Ah the old “implications don’t exist”.

        Pretending “both sides are accusing each other of…” in cases like this is a textbook example of bad faith arguing.

        • @AngryCommieKender
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          04 months ago

          I agree you absolutely have been arguing in bad faith this entire thread.

          • @Dasus
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            04 months ago

            You acting that childish — proudly — is honestly making me sad in real life.

            The implication of the first comment of this thread is that there are “both sides” to this. There aren’t. Who exactly is saying “Palestine is committing a genocide on Israelis?”

            Trying to pretend both sides are in any way “as bad” is exactly the type of shitty propaganda Israel keeps pushing. The same type of rhetoric the Nazis used. It’s so fucking ironic that Jewish people are now committing the heinous crimes they were the victims of 100 years ago.

            • KillingTimeItself
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              04 months ago

              The implication of the first comment of this thread is that there are “both sides” to this. There aren’t. Who exactly is saying “Palestine is committing a genocide on Israelis?”

              what an incredibly naive and basic take on a geo political (historical) conflict that is still ongoing.

              If we’re going to analyze this from a clinical perspective, as would be implied by “both sides” we need to consider the actions of both sides, independently to each other. In a manner that is unrelated. This is the only way to truly “both sides” something.

              Looking at it in any other capacity is entirely irresponsible and disingenuous at best.

              Only a literal child considers both sides exclusively in the capacity of “genocide” in this case. This is like saying that the US won the space race because we got to the moon and back, with people. Even though the USSR did literally everything else before the US did.

              • @Dasus
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                14 months ago

                Only a literal child considers both sides exclusively in the capacity of “genocide” in this case. This is like saying that the US won the space race because we got to the moon and back, with people. Even though the USSR did literally everything else before the US did.

                Even a lot of literal children realise that trying to equate Israel and Palestine as being equally guilty here is not like comparing the US space program to the Soviet’s. It’s more like comparing the US space program to the Ghanan space program.

                You just can’t accept any fault on Israel’s part, because you’re a pathetic genocide denier, denying rape and slaughter of children.

                UN Commission Finds Israel Guilty of Crimes Against Humanity

                The report holds the Israeli occupation responsible for the ongoing catastrophic situation in Gaza. But it also alludes to the possibility that October 7 is a watershed moment for even harsher Israeli occupation unless international law is urgently implemented.

                Israel is sanctioned for committing “crimes against humanity of extermination, gender persecution targeting Palestinian men and boys, murder, forcible transfer, and torture and inhuman and cruel treatment.”

                In clear and deliberate violation of international law, Israel intended to commit these crimes: to murder civilians en masse, inflict wide-scale civilian destruction, and collectively punish and dehumanize Palestinians in Gaza. Palestinians were murdered. They didn’t die as collateral damage or as unintended victims of Israeli military operations, but as Israel’s deliberate targets.

                There the truth goes, being objective again. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

                • KillingTimeItself
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                  14 months ago

                  Even a lot of literal children realise that trying to equate Israel and Palestine as being equally guilty here is not like comparing the US space program to the Soviet’s. It’s more like comparing the US space program to the Ghanan space program.

                  i’m not equating them.

                  You just can’t accept any fault on Israel’s part,

                  i have, numerous times. You’re just lying through your teeth here.

                  i like how the section you block quote doesnt even once mention the word “genocide” in it. You’re still pulling it out of your ass.

                  • @Dasus
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                    14 months ago

                    i have, numerous times. You’re just lying through your teeth here.

                    I’m still on the edge of whether you’re incredibly stupid or actually that bad at lying.

                    So you admit that Israel is undeniably indiscriminately bombing civilians, like all the reports show? And you won’t start rambling and equivocating with the exact garbage that Israel tries to deny these accusations with?

                    UN Commission Finds Israel Guilty of Crimes Against Humanity

                    >The report holds the Israeli occupation responsible for the ongoing catastrophic situation in Gaza. But it also alludes to the possibility that October 7 is a watershed moment for even harsher Israeli occupation unless international law is urgently implemented.
                    
                    >Israel is sanctioned for committing “crimes against humanity of extermination, gender persecution targeting Palestinian men and boys, murder, forcible transfer, and torture and inhuman and cruel treatment.”
                    
                    >In clear and deliberate violation of international law, Israel intended to commit these crimes: to murder civilians en masse, inflict wide-scale civilian destruction, and collectively punish and dehumanize Palestinians in Gaza. Palestinians were murdered. They didn’t die as collateral damage or as unintended victims of Israeli military operations, but as Israel’s deliberate targets.
                    

                    So if you’re not disavowing that, you understand and agree that Israel is guilty of crimes against humanity. But you don’t, so you’ll continue with some other pathetic grade-school level attempt at saying you’re not saying what you’re saying.

              • @Dasus
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                14 months ago

                So angry at me and sore at losing the argument that instead of just replying with your usual garbage, you replied to three different comments of mine; one on a completely different post (so you got so mad you started stalking my profile, hahahah), then this one, and lastly in the actual thread itself.

                Just a proudly American fool who’s denying that Israel is committing war crimes like these.

                https://www.icc-cpi.int/sites/default/files/2024-05/240520-panel-report-eng.pdf https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/06/04/israel-50-years-occupation-abuses

                Oh, right, sorry, I just remembered you’re proudly ignorant and probably your literacy matches that attitude, so something… more to your level:

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_war_crimes_in_the_Israel–Hamas_war

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_the_Gaza_Strip

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_schools_during_the_Israeli_invasion_of_Gaza

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_health_facilities_during_the_Israel–Hamas_war

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Israeli_airstrikes_on_municipal_services_in_the_Gaza_Strip

                People like you disgust me, but as I don’t want to be as shit of a person as you, I actually reply in good faith. People like you just tie yourself in knots.