Trump endorsed the campaigns of Cornel West and Jill Stein over the weekend, saying they're spoilers who will help him win in the fall by chipping way at Biden's support.
Way to prove your disingenuousness. I never argued for the status quo. But I understand that when you don’t actually have a response to an argument. At least for disingenuous people. You just make stuff up as you just did. I get that you irrationally hate nato. And you can keep irrationally hating nato. Because you will not ever succeed or convince people of your position when you keep making up stufg like this.
All I said was that there are other Bad actors out there. And leaving ourself defenseless and without allies is a bad idea. I’m all for fixing nato. But you are for Banning hammers because someone was killed by one once. Your for throwing babies out with bath water. Because it was dirty. Mutual defense packs are fine and have a place still today. I would like to see the imperialist nature of it done away with. But no one with any sense would trust anything you have to say. Good day.
What exactly did I make up? You don’t have to say that you support the status quo to argue in favor of the status quo. I’m asking basic questions to understand where you’re coming from, because I refuse to assume things about your position. China greatly prefers soft power over military power (not that they don’t act in a jingoist manner), and will not align themselves with Russia in fear of US secondary sanctions hurting their soft power. India is courting all sides of the geopolitical game in the hopes of gaining power overall, not in any specific direction. North Korea has weapons manufacturing capabilities lacking in Russia, but the DPRK is doing it to hurt the West without incurring worse sanctions. BRICS is an economic alliance comparable to the WTO and it definitely has nowhere near the weight of WTO or the will to become a military alliance. The African Union and ECOWAS are aligned with the imperial core. I’m not denying that there are other bad actors out there, I’m saying that none of the bad actors are anywhere close to organized, so fearmongering about “something worse than NATO” is nothing more than that.
I wouldn’t call “hating NATO” irrational. I’d say it’s a difference in priorities. I don’t believe that the suffering imposed on the global south by NATO is outweighed by the mild stability they’re bringing to the global north currently. I hate the pain and suffering that NATO enables in the majority of the world. However out of pragmatism, I see that the lack of NATO in the present would be worse for people overall. The best time to have dismantled NATO would have been at any point from 1992 to 2010. The next best time will come in the near future when NATO is no longer holding the West together against bad actors. However rather than dismantle it, I want to see it transformed into something that helps people in crisis, rather than the purposes of war. To do that, the US (NATO’s largest funder) will need to have a socialist economy to prevent them pulling out ASAP, and a majority of other members will need to be socialist as well due to the democratic structure of the organization. It’s a Herculean task, but I believe that it can be done. Perhaps you should avoid assuming things about my position as well.
I feel like you’re the same type of person that would refuse to help organize a union or even sign a membership card because the organizing committee isn’t doing things ‘your way’. I know your type, because I organized a union without the help of your type. Running around accusing people disagreeing with you as “disingenuous” doesn’t help gain understanding or class solidarity with your fellow workers.
Way to prove your disingenuousness. I never argued for the status quo. But I understand that when you don’t actually have a response to an argument. At least for disingenuous people. You just make stuff up as you just did. I get that you irrationally hate nato. And you can keep irrationally hating nato. Because you will not ever succeed or convince people of your position when you keep making up stufg like this.
All I said was that there are other Bad actors out there. And leaving ourself defenseless and without allies is a bad idea. I’m all for fixing nato. But you are for Banning hammers because someone was killed by one once. Your for throwing babies out with bath water. Because it was dirty. Mutual defense packs are fine and have a place still today. I would like to see the imperialist nature of it done away with. But no one with any sense would trust anything you have to say. Good day.
What exactly did I make up? You don’t have to say that you support the status quo to argue in favor of the status quo. I’m asking basic questions to understand where you’re coming from, because I refuse to assume things about your position. China greatly prefers soft power over military power (not that they don’t act in a jingoist manner), and will not align themselves with Russia in fear of US secondary sanctions hurting their soft power. India is courting all sides of the geopolitical game in the hopes of gaining power overall, not in any specific direction. North Korea has weapons manufacturing capabilities lacking in Russia, but the DPRK is doing it to hurt the West without incurring worse sanctions. BRICS is an economic alliance comparable to the WTO and it definitely has nowhere near the weight of WTO or the will to become a military alliance. The African Union and ECOWAS are aligned with the imperial core. I’m not denying that there are other bad actors out there, I’m saying that none of the bad actors are anywhere close to organized, so fearmongering about “something worse than NATO” is nothing more than that.
I wouldn’t call “hating NATO” irrational. I’d say it’s a difference in priorities. I don’t believe that the suffering imposed on the global south by NATO is outweighed by the mild stability they’re bringing to the global north currently. I hate the pain and suffering that NATO enables in the majority of the world. However out of pragmatism, I see that the lack of NATO in the present would be worse for people overall. The best time to have dismantled NATO would have been at any point from 1992 to 2010. The next best time will come in the near future when NATO is no longer holding the West together against bad actors. However rather than dismantle it, I want to see it transformed into something that helps people in crisis, rather than the purposes of war. To do that, the US (NATO’s largest funder) will need to have a socialist economy to prevent them pulling out ASAP, and a majority of other members will need to be socialist as well due to the democratic structure of the organization. It’s a Herculean task, but I believe that it can be done. Perhaps you should avoid assuming things about my position as well.
I feel like you’re the same type of person that would refuse to help organize a union or even sign a membership card because the organizing committee isn’t doing things ‘your way’. I know your type, because I organized a union without the help of your type. Running around accusing people disagreeing with you as “disingenuous” doesn’t help gain understanding or class solidarity with your fellow workers.