Food bank only had raisins. My food stamps were cut by two thirds. Inflation is way up. Specific shortages. I asked some people around me and they’re also struggling. No emergency announcements. Feels like a cover up. I heard US shale oil is peaking. All this and I live in the central valley of California, ag central. I should have food easily, instead it’s a struggle.

  • @ultranaut
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    253 months ago

    I mostly shop at Costco and am not struggling so maybe my perspective is skewed but it seems like food prices have been coming down recently, and I haven’t noticed any shortages. If you think it feels like things are being covered up that sounds a little paranoid and conspiratorial to me, food distribution in the US is a huge and complicated system involving a whole lot of people, it seems completely implausible that a cover up of a major food crisis would even be possible. There’s just too many people who would notice (and there isn’t any kind of centralized hierarchy involved that could pull something like that off). I don’t see the relevance of shale oil production, the US produces plenty of oil to be both self sufficient and one of the largest oil exporters in the world. If you’re concerned the US doesn’t have enough oil or something like that you really shouldn’t be.

    • @Fisherman75OP
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      -103 months ago

      What do you mean you don’t see the relevance of shale oil production?

      • @Squizzy
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        153 months ago

        How did the price of oil affect the raisins in the shelf? Why relate the two?

        • @Fisherman75OP
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          Agriculture depends heavily on oil.

          • @Squizzy
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            43 months ago

            Dude you need more than that, the availability of labour affects agriculture too would it be fair to claik thensupposed food shortage is related to excess desths due to covid.

            • @Fisherman75OP
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              What are you talking about? It’s a major factor. I didn’t say it was the only factor.

              • @Squizzy
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                23 months ago

                How is it creating a food shortage? It would be a factor in a price increase not a shortage.

                  • @Squizzy
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                    13 months ago

                    So you dont have anything worthwhile to say then, could have started with that.

      • @ultranaut
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        143 months ago

        I mean I don’t see how it has anything to do with allegations of a secret food crisis, it seems like a non sequitur.

        • @Fisherman75OP
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          Literally agriculture depends heavily on oil.

          • @ultranaut
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            13 months ago

            It’s a lot more complicated than that. Even if we accept a simplified model where “more oil = more agriculture”, the US has seen massive growth in oil production over the past decade so it contradicts the claim that there’s food shortages because of oil production. If there are food shortages happening right now it’s not at all related to oil production in the US.

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              I’m referring to shale oil peaking. That’s the only reason oil production has increased in the United States recently - shale oil production increasing massively over the last decade. I saw something that seemed to indicate the US shale oil peaking which would be a major factor in food production going forward and may have spooked the markets and thereby disrupted supply chains. What do you think I mean by ‘factor’ or ‘depends heavily on’? When someone is brainstorming it’s common courtesy not to get all dismissive and degrading, also basic decency.