It’s always gradual up until the very end. They chip away at your sense of normal by changing little things. It starts with censorship. They delete the ideas they don’t like. Then they eliminate free speech. Punish protesters. Increase militarization of police. Add a few laws about “appropriate behavior” you know, dress codes, curfews, male escorts, mandatory church attendance, et viola, authoritarian state.
Oh gotcha, I point out reality so it must be a troll. It would be good for you to actually learn what the fuck is happening and not just repeat the propaganda you read on the internet.
Buddy, you didn’t point out shit, you gave a presupposition. If you want to point something out, point out the legislation behind each of the “steps the left has taken in the last few years.”
I never said there was legislation, and in fact if they can accomplish steps without legislation then thats even better for them.
Step 1 - Can you say mainstream ideas that conservative believe on social media and not get kicked off most platforms? No, you will get booted off most platforms.
If we’re not talking legislation, then I don’t see how it’s all that important in a discussion about democracy. If a social media company chooses freely to decide they don’t want to platform someone, where’s the problem? That’s freedom, baby. I have very few carveouts where I will not support someone’s actual right to speech, but I do not think forcing any private entity to platform speech they are against is all that democratic.
I do not even agree that many of these companies are really all that quick to deplatform people either. There are many conservative voices on social media. The examples that come to mind where individuals were kicked off certain sites generally involve explicit undue vitriol against other people (individuals and communities), often wishing harm unto them. If this is not what you mean by the “mainstream ideas that conservative believe” that people are being kicked off platforms for (I sure hope not)…then what else? I mean, who is being booted off of platforms for saying they think the government is too big, or that they think x politician is doing a poor job, etc.?
The issue is the government is so big that it is married to corporations (mainly on the federal level). So the big issue is the government directly giving money to companies and telling them who to censor, and also how the financial system works and the funds that the companies get indirect to censorship. Also there is the “public square” argument that social media is the public square and a few companies have a monopoly on the public square.
Step 1 - Can you say mainstream ideas that conservative believe on social media and not get kicked off most platforms? No, you will get booted off most platforms.
How many times have I been banned off this site or from sub-reddits for sharing tepidly conservative opinions? On this site I think temporarily 2-3 times, and probably 30 different subreddits. But you are free to yell any crazy leftist belief about the revolution and putting people up against the wall.
I’m sure you were banned for opinions that expressed no sort of bigotry or hatred of people not like you, and these were easy, mainsteam opinions that only a fool would find unacceptable. Yep, I have no doubt you are not leaving out any details whatsoever.
Anyhow, here you are, somehow still posting, and no one has any doubt that you’re a conservative. I’d say you are expressing yourself pretty freely.
Step 1 - Can you say mainstream ideas that conservative believe on social media and not get kicked off most platforms? No, you will get booted off most platforms.
Heh I know I’m starting a parallel reply chain, but I suddenly remembered this meme today. This is really the crux of the problem.
Show me the book, and show me the evidence, and you might have a point about one book. We’re talking about people who wholesale ban books about black history or featuring gay parents.
It’s always gradual up until the very end. They chip away at your sense of normal by changing little things. It starts with censorship. They delete the ideas they don’t like. Then they eliminate free speech. Punish protesters. Increase militarization of police. Add a few laws about “appropriate behavior” you know, dress codes, curfews, male escorts, mandatory church attendance, et viola, authoritarian state.
This is kind of funny/sad. Do you realize you just listed out the steps the left has taken in the last 10 years?
Obvious troll is obvious so I’m not going to waste time on you.
Oh gotcha, I point out reality so it must be a troll. It would be good for you to actually learn what the fuck is happening and not just repeat the propaganda you read on the internet.
Buddy, you didn’t point out shit, you gave a presupposition. If you want to point something out, point out the legislation behind each of the “steps the left has taken in the last few years.”
I never said there was legislation, and in fact if they can accomplish steps without legislation then thats even better for them.
Step 1 - Can you say mainstream ideas that conservative believe on social media and not get kicked off most platforms? No, you will get booted off most platforms.
If we’re not talking legislation, then I don’t see how it’s all that important in a discussion about democracy. If a social media company chooses freely to decide they don’t want to platform someone, where’s the problem? That’s freedom, baby. I have very few carveouts where I will not support someone’s actual right to speech, but I do not think forcing any private entity to platform speech they are against is all that democratic.
I do not even agree that many of these companies are really all that quick to deplatform people either. There are many conservative voices on social media. The examples that come to mind where individuals were kicked off certain sites generally involve explicit undue vitriol against other people (individuals and communities), often wishing harm unto them. If this is not what you mean by the “mainstream ideas that conservative believe” that people are being kicked off platforms for (I sure hope not)…then what else? I mean, who is being booted off of platforms for saying they think the government is too big, or that they think x politician is doing a poor job, etc.?
The issue is the government is so big that it is married to corporations (mainly on the federal level). So the big issue is the government directly giving money to companies and telling them who to censor, and also how the financial system works and the funds that the companies get indirect to censorship. Also there is the “public square” argument that social media is the public square and a few companies have a monopoly on the public square.
‘These days you’re only allowed to have an opinion if it’s woke’, insists man who spends every single day freely expressing non-woke opinions
How many times have I been banned off this site or from sub-reddits for sharing tepidly conservative opinions? On this site I think temporarily 2-3 times, and probably 30 different subreddits. But you are free to yell any crazy leftist belief about the revolution and putting people up against the wall.
I’m sure you were banned for opinions that expressed no sort of bigotry or hatred of people not like you, and these were easy, mainsteam opinions that only a fool would find unacceptable. Yep, I have no doubt you are not leaving out any details whatsoever.
Anyhow, here you are, somehow still posting, and no one has any doubt that you’re a conservative. I’d say you are expressing yourself pretty freely.
Heh I know I’m starting a parallel reply chain, but I suddenly remembered this meme today. This is really the crux of the problem.
Oh wow, a meme that is more propaganda, wow good job!
Who’s banning the fucking library books, Cap?
Do you think all library books should be available to all kids in public schools?
No
Then what is so bad with removing books they see as inappropriate for children?
There’s nothing evidence based or beneficial about the way they’re banning books. They’re just censoring what they don’t like.
What is not evidence based about banning books in public schools that have sexual content?
Show me the book, and show me the evidence, and you might have a point about one book. We’re talking about people who wholesale ban books about black history or featuring gay parents.