• @Freefall
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    154 months ago

    If trump wins, he voted for trump. That is how spoiler votes and non-voting works in our system.

    The people with his absurd mentality are quitters. If the worst comes to pass, and the world suffers harshly for it, I trust history will remember his ilk in the exact same vein as MAGA.

    • @HomerianSymphony
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      24 months ago

      The people with his absurd mentality are quitters.

      I’m sorry, is supporting Biden supposed to be a test of endurance?

      That’s pretty fucked up.

      • @Freefall
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        34 months ago

        Endure, maintain the crappy status quo, try as we might to bring about change strikes me as better than Give up and bring about the worst timeline possible.

        Also, I support stopping p2025, not Biden directly. At most it is supporting those around him.

        • @HomerianSymphony
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          04 months ago

          I’m not giving up. I’m throwing my efforts behind other options.

          • @I_Has_A_Hat
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            -14 months ago

            Your “other option” is going into a Burger King and demanding spaghetti.

          • @Freefall
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            -14 months ago

            Our trash-tier system only supports two parties. If you would normally vote blue (caring about others and being anti-genocide tells me you would be more left than right) and don’t do so this time, your lack of a blue vote means red needs one less to win. This functionally means you would be voting red. Your spoiler-vote protest would actually mean something in ranked-choice or other systems, but we don’t have that, so you are just voting red, but with more steps.

            I am all for any other candidate, to be fair, but the whole non-voting or spoiler-votingis a different thing entirely.

            • @HomerianSymphony
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              4 months ago

              This functionally means you would be voting red. Your spoiler-vote protest

              It’s not a protest vote. I want the Greens to win. And if everyone voted Green, then the Greens would win.

              Maybe you’re preventing the Greens from winning by voting Blue.

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                Ok, so it is just a spoiler vote. The greens don’t have a chance and never have. Sorry, it is still real world vs pipedream. This is where ranked choice would come in. People could vote green with blue as a second choice. When green inevitably loses, then your votes would go blue instead of red, like they will now.

                A full swap from blue to green by the entire party is a prisoners dilemma AT BEST.

    • @Cryophilia
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      04 months ago

      I still heap a large amount of blame on the bernie bros for 2016.

      • @Freefall
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        04 months ago

        As much as I wanted Bernie, same.