Fun fact: Torx screwdrivers are compatible with Torx Plus screws, but Trox Plus screwdrivers are only compatible with Torx screws that are one size larger

  • @helpImTrappedOnline
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    135 months ago

    Don’t discount hex, paired with a ball-end wrench, those are great for odd angles or tight spaces a straight wrench can’t get too.

    • KillingTimeItself
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      75 months ago

      they’re pretty good but semi liable to stripping due to lower surface area, as long as you use the right tool, and a quality one, you’ll be fine though.

      Also hex is somewhat inter-compatible with torx, which is really cursed.

      • @Aux
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        -25 months ago

        Torx are easier to strip, especially the smaller sizes. They’re pretty much single use screws.

        • KillingTimeItself
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          05 months ago

          small screws in general are just easy to strip. Small torx is also liable to breaking a driver, like most small screws and drivers.

          Torx though, i’ve never had strip out once, even doing construction with them. Phillips on the other hand, they kill screws constantly, and the bits themselves get all chewed up causing all kinds of problems. Torx bits still look fine though.

          Torx aren’t exactly tapered, so they much less of a problem with stripping, compared to any tapered design, because tapered designs have issues with backing off.

          • @Aux
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            15 months ago

            small screws in general are just easy to strip

            Hexes are very sturdy. I ride mountain bikes and for some reason brake rotors are secured with Torx while all other screws are hexes. Torx on rotors are usually tightened to 4-6Nm and they are single use 99% of the time. At the same time there are plenty of hexes of the same size which are tightened to 8-10Nm and there are zero issues.

            Torx are fucking useless. And don’t get me started on tiny Torxes in laptops…

            • KillingTimeItself
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              15 months ago

              you’re not using like, soft fasteners or some shit right?

              I could see hex performing better on a softer material. That or you’re doing something goofy. I’d be surprised if torx were stripping at that low of a torque rating, unless ur using hex drivers on them or something.

              • @Aux
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                15 months ago

                Fasteners are standard from rotor manufacturers. I have no clue what they’re made out of. But in 30 years of cycling I’ve never had a single Torx which would last more than one cycle of screw in screw out.

                • KillingTimeItself
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                  15 months ago

                  that’s bizarre. Torx are commonly used in construction with impact drivers, and in vehicles as well. Very rarely are they ever problematic, and that’s with quite significant shock loading as well as torque application in the case of construction, i would imagine more than in a bike, but i wouldn’t be able to say off the top of my head, though they might be bigger standard head sizes, so that could be it.

                  Regardless, begs the question why hex screws aren’t in construction, those should be simpler and easier to produce.