Its horrific to watch left (wing) leaning politicians tripping over themselves wishing trump a speedy recovery and condemning violence in any way, and then see the comments filled with fascists literally telling them that they will kill them for “demonizing the right and causing this to happen.”.
It is terrifying.
“We wish mr.trump a speedy recovery! Violence is never the answer! We hope he is okay! 🥺”
“You caused this by demonizing us and calling us fascists and nazis. We will come for you and kill you.”
“Totally understandable! We are so sorry! 🙏🥺 Please continue your quest for genocide and the elimination of democracy! Again, so sorry! Forgive me! 🙏😭”
IF Trump is the threat to democracy that the dems say, the shooting was a reasonable response.
I hate this 'violence is never the answer ’ nonsense. I’ve been taught my entire life that sometimes violence is justified. For example: ww2, American revolutionary war, civil war, wars for independence (thanks Britain), Haitian uprising…
This. I am finding it bizarre how violence by the state is perfectly acceptable but suddenly it becomes unacceptable when a non state actor does exactly the same.
Congress always approves, and regularly surpasses all military budget increase requests. Don’t ever let these people tell you that violence isn’t the answer. They sure seem to understand the power of violence.
Violence against the state will always be more just than violence by the state.
Well, yes, but it was also an ineffective response. The problem isn’t that Trump is the head of the party, it’s the party. Trump isn’t some magic irreplaceable leader, and a recursive solution isn’t sustainable.
PS: (I said “it’s the party”, but that’s not true either. The problem goes further than that; the entire system is rigged)
Violence is sometimes the answer. And that’s when fascism comes rearing it’s head because you know for damn sure they’ll use all the violence they can to get their way and they won’t ever stop trying to enact their shitty, dumb ideas that no one likes and every normal human being knows won’t work.
Then the fascists will cry about violence and being civil as if they haven’t been complete shitheads and stoking their own violent rhetoric for the past decade. Electing the worst person possible who constantly lies about everything and won’t take responsibility for his own actions and words. A child rapist, wife beating, wife cheating, daughter fucking moron. And electing him means they’re completely fine with all that stuff which should be a massive fucking red flag to anyone sane.
Hillary was completely right. Republicans are deplorable and they’re only getting worse.
Every single Democratic response should have been “Thoughts and prayers! Now watch this drive…” takes golf swing
Anything more is overblown and unwarranted. None of them are responsible for this. The right is responsible for the violence and they don’t give a shit unless it’s happening to them.
It’s the Chamberlain approach to politics. If you need any more Nazi adjacent imagery to use. It’s great the Democrats are willing to compromise and debate. Appeasing fascists however never has a good outcome. And most of them still cannot acknowledge that’s what the GOP has been for nearly the last hundred years.
I don’t like to link Xitter, bad enough I had to give it engagement while Googling this, but if there are such things as the earlier commenter said, I’m sure they’re somewhere below this post by Biden on Twitter
Its horrific to watch left (wing) leaning politicians tripping over themselves wishing trump a speedy recovery and condemning violence in any way, and then see the comments filled with fascists literally telling them that they will kill them for “demonizing the right and causing this to happen.”.
It is terrifying.
“We wish mr.trump a speedy recovery! Violence is never the answer! We hope he is okay! 🥺”
“You caused this by demonizing us and calling us fascists and nazis. We will come for you and kill you.”
“Totally understandable! We are so sorry! 🙏🥺 Please continue your quest for genocide and the elimination of democracy! Again, so sorry! Forgive me! 🙏😭”
IF Trump is the threat to democracy that the dems say, the shooting was a reasonable response. I hate this 'violence is never the answer ’ nonsense. I’ve been taught my entire life that sometimes violence is justified. For example: ww2, American revolutionary war, civil war, wars for independence (thanks Britain), Haitian uprising…
“Violence is never the answer” coming from a country that can’t sustain its economy unless they are in some war. All the time.
Violence is never the answer*
The irony is these politicians have all supported or are directly responsible for state sanctioned murder through the armed forces.
Like you literally have a monopoly on violence and murder, the fuck you saying it’s not okay?
This. I am finding it bizarre how violence by the state is perfectly acceptable but suddenly it becomes unacceptable when a non state actor does exactly the same.
Congress always approves, and regularly surpasses all military budget increase requests. Don’t ever let these people tell you that violence isn’t the answer. They sure seem to understand the power of violence.
Violence against the state will always be more just than violence by the state.
Well, yes, but it was also an ineffective response. The problem isn’t that Trump is the head of the party, it’s the party. Trump isn’t some magic irreplaceable leader, and a recursive solution isn’t sustainable.
PS: (I said “it’s the party”, but that’s not true either. The problem goes further than that; the entire system is rigged)
(Also, to be extra clear, violence is not merely justified but inevitably necessary, but randomly assassinating leaders isn’t a viable strategy)
Violence is sometimes the answer. And that’s when fascism comes rearing it’s head because you know for damn sure they’ll use all the violence they can to get their way and they won’t ever stop trying to enact their shitty, dumb ideas that no one likes and every normal human being knows won’t work.
Then the fascists will cry about violence and being civil as if they haven’t been complete shitheads and stoking their own violent rhetoric for the past decade. Electing the worst person possible who constantly lies about everything and won’t take responsibility for his own actions and words. A child rapist, wife beating, wife cheating, daughter fucking moron. And electing him means they’re completely fine with all that stuff which should be a massive fucking red flag to anyone sane.
Hillary was completely right. Republicans are deplorable and they’re only getting worse.
Not really, no.
You’re omitting the part where the implied threat is Trump getting power again. Not him just existing.
Every single Democratic response should have been “Thoughts and prayers! Now watch this drive…” takes golf swing
Anything more is overblown and unwarranted. None of them are responsible for this. The right is responsible for the violence and they don’t give a shit unless it’s happening to them.
It’s the Chamberlain approach to politics. If you need any more Nazi adjacent imagery to use. It’s great the Democrats are willing to compromise and debate. Appeasing fascists however never has a good outcome. And most of them still cannot acknowledge that’s what the GOP has been for nearly the last hundred years.
Sow the wind, reap the cyclone
I cannot blame them for not wanting the violence to escalate. But I don’t think it can be avoided.
Can you give an example?
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/prominent-republicans-lay-blame-democrats-trump-rally-shooting-rcna161774
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
Of a politician wishing Trump a fast recovery.
I don’t like to link Xitter, bad enough I had to give it engagement while Googling this, but if there are such things as the earlier commenter said, I’m sure they’re somewhere below this post by Biden on Twitter
Alright, not going to lie, bidens a fucking tool, again.
I guess though, if his appeal is actually to never Trumpers you have to attempt it, right? Not that I think it’s worth his time.
It’s not like Biden’s the only one, Bernie did it, and so did Obama. And those are just the ones I saw posted on Lemmy.
I may have just found my soulmate.