• mozz
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    135 months ago

    If only someone had linked to some articles

    • Victoria Antoinette
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      5 months ago

      this is handwaving.

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      this user has, to their credit, probably given me every relevant search result they could scrounge up to try to support their position, but have not actually provided the metric by which we could evaluate whether biden has been the most pro-union president ever. i suspect it is because no such metric exists, and, as such, can never be used to measure the actions of any president. instead of acknowledging that they are simply spreading rhetoric-as-fact, they have chosen to take a sarcastic, patronizing tone. feel free to think what you want about unions, presidential candidates, and whatnot, but please recognize that this claim in particular is purely rhetorical and not one that can be substatiated by any evidence.

      • mozz
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        155 months ago

        What a polite request! As a matter of fact, I’d be happy to cut and paste so it’s a little more clear for people who don’t like clicking links.

        “Put us in the group of doubling down unequivocally,” said Brent Booker, president of the Laborers’ International Union of North America, which represents some 400,000 U.S. workers in construction and other sectors. “He’s done more for our members than any president in my lifetime.”

        “Most of my members are already pretty well-attuned to how Joe Biden feels about labor unions. I don’t doubt [Harris] would support labor unions, but I don’t think she would stand a chance” at winning the election, said Dave Fashbaugh, 59, the business manager of a local chapter of the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers in Michigan.

        Despite the panic set off in much of the party over Biden’s debate performance, union support has not wavered for the president even at the moments of maximum uncertainty. Union endorsements have taken care to stress support for both Biden and Harris, often endorsing the two jointly, and many union officials say publicly they would be as confident in Harris as in Biden.

        As Democrats on Capitol Hill convened to discuss their way forward, the AFL-CIO last week put out a statement saying it “Stands in Strong Solidarity With Biden-Harris Ticket.” The nation’s preeminent labor organization endorsed Biden in June 2022, the earliest it has ever weighed in on a presidential race.

        The Biden administration has gone to enormous lengths to make good on his promise to be the “most pro-union president in history.”

        He pushed for key legislation that poured billions of dollars into the creation of union jobs in clean energy, semiconductors and other industries. He has appointed labor allies to key leadership positions and offered unions pension bailouts, apprenticeship funds and policies that have made it easier for workers to organize.

        “President Biden’s record of delivering for working people stands for itself,” David McCall, president of the United Steelworkers, said Tuesday in a written statement. His “transformative infrastructure investments … are creating good, union jobs” and “his worker-centered trade policy … is rebuilding supply chains.”

        IDK, I stopped with that much; that seems like plenty. Want me to copy and paste some from the NLRB article, though? There’s a little bit of history and explanation of how he made it happen that might be interesting.

        • Victoria Antoinette
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          “He’s done more for our members than any president in my lifetime.”

          that’s not “ever”, and it’s not quantified anyway.

          your second quote has no meaningful metric at all about biden, only juxtaposing him against harris

          the third says he’s been trying to make good on his campaign promise, but it does not actually show the bar for how to become the most pro-union president, nor how biden has approached (or passed) that measure.

          the fourth is some platitudes.

          if a claim is to be made, it should be able to be evidenced. otherwise, it’s just rhetoric.

          • mozz
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            135 months ago

            Yes yes, very good. Let it all out.

            Here, now do this one; tell me why it’s all irrelevant. Don’t hold back, it’s not good for you.