I think for a while leading up to the recent session stealing hack, there has been a massive amount of positivity from Lemmy users around all kinds of new Lemmy apps, frontends, and tools that have been popping up lately.
Positivity is great, but please be aware that basically all of these things work by asking for complete access to your account. When you enter your Lemmy password into any third party tool, they are not just getting access to your session (which is what was stolen from some users during the recent hack), they also get the ability to generate more sessions in the future without your knowledge. This means that even if an admin resets all sessions and kicks all users out, anybody with your password can of course still take over your account!
This isn’t to say that any current Lemmy app developers are for sure out to get you, but at this point, it’s quite clear that there are malicious folks out there. Creating a Lemmy app seems like a completely easy vector to attack users right now, considering how trusting everybody has been. So please be careful about what code you run on your devices, and who you trust with your credentials!
I’ve been wondering that myself. I’ve only entered my pw into Jerboa, which is made by the Lemmy devs (and Liftoff once, but changed the pw since).
Now I only ever use FOSS apps, which all seem to be under some amount of scrutiny, but idk how much is enough.
I’ve always been particularly wary of Voyager/wefwef. Not that I wouldn’t trust the devs, but the whole concept of entering a password into a 3rd page that only passes it onto the right page, damn that’s just dumb on principle.
It’s particularly weird since this is home for so many techies and privacy/security advocates.
Its less dumb than entering it into a regular app compiled into an apk, which is more opaque (even if it’s also FOSS). Voyager you can host it yourself.
You can compile the app code yourself too.
Sure. Both compiling your own apk or self-hosting are ideal. If you’re not doing either though, the web app is more easily inspectable.
All of the apps have you enter your credentials into their page because Lemmy doesn’t support OAuth2. I don’t think it’s fair to criticize Voyager for a problem that is currently inherent to all Lemmy apps.
Yea but it’s a local form on the device and not a 3rd party server, which is another layer of insecurity. And I’m not sure how much of the rest of communication needs to get proxied too.
I dunno, that’s just way beyond my comfort zone unless I really want to self-host that stuff.
Anyway, okay, nothing seems to be all that well secure at this point.