^ This is the exact unconscious commodification capitalism infects normal brains with. Everything has to be a zero sum transaction, no mutualism is possible and every relationship boils down to a network of debts.
The wort part about it is that those most affected by this mental illness are the ones that actively fight to normalize it.
Depending on the situation, it seems like mutualism to me. I stayed with my parents through a lot of covid and was happy to help contribute with the groceries and cooking because they’re family and I wanted to pitch in. I guess it’s really a matter of expectations, they didn’t expect me to pay for groceries, just to pitch in with the cooking. I think it’s also a matter of circumstances, if we were living on a tight budget in an apartment, I think it would be fine of them to expect me to contribute a bit to expenses if I had a job, but it wouldn’t be fine to me if they like set a dollar ammount or percentage or something like that. I don’t know, I’m just poking my brain to see how it reacts but it seems to me the expectation of family working together to provide for themselves as a family is fine as an expectation, but that starts to break down when you add transactional details. IDK, I’m rambling, and probably missing your point, but you can have my random thoughts anyways
Then your situation isn’t what we are talking about. We are talking situations where not only is there an expectation to pay, the entire situation is transactional. I.e. not mutualism.
Yes and no. You should not force your children to do so. Even young adults are not yet fully mentally developed and may still be more teenaged than adult, which is reflective in their behavior. Forcing them out may not bee a good thing. Forcing them out without them being able to provide for themselves is downright awful.
Now I know the USA has awful laws in many places, but there should be some to protect people that can’t or cannot afford to defend themselves. Young adults are such people.
Were I live parents are forced to pay for the education of their children even after they grow up. At least for the first education.
If you’re unable to, then the responsible thing is for your parents to help you out, if they’re able to.
There is, however, a point where you start to look after your parents as they age, so if you’re a grown adult and working, then you should at least be cost neutral to your folks.
Yes you help your parents when they need help as they age, that is what is done in a healthy family. Most of the times it’s a one-way street and I feel like it’s most often in the direction indicated in picture above
If you’re working and living at home, yes you should contribute to household expenses. What a strange take.
^ This is the exact unconscious commodification capitalism infects normal brains with. Everything has to be a zero sum transaction, no mutualism is possible and every relationship boils down to a network of debts.
The wort part about it is that those most affected by this mental illness are the ones that actively fight to normalize it.
Depending on the situation, it seems like mutualism to me. I stayed with my parents through a lot of covid and was happy to help contribute with the groceries and cooking because they’re family and I wanted to pitch in. I guess it’s really a matter of expectations, they didn’t expect me to pay for groceries, just to pitch in with the cooking. I think it’s also a matter of circumstances, if we were living on a tight budget in an apartment, I think it would be fine of them to expect me to contribute a bit to expenses if I had a job, but it wouldn’t be fine to me if they like set a dollar ammount or percentage or something like that. I don’t know, I’m just poking my brain to see how it reacts but it seems to me the expectation of family working together to provide for themselves as a family is fine as an expectation, but that starts to break down when you add transactional details. IDK, I’m rambling, and probably missing your point, but you can have my random thoughts anyways
Then your situation isn’t what we are talking about. We are talking situations where not only is there an expectation to pay, the entire situation is transactional. I.e. not mutualism.
Your username perfectly fits your response.
Do you think I came up with it at random?
It’s a warning label no one takes seriously.
Yes and no. You should not force your children to do so. Even young adults are not yet fully mentally developed and may still be more teenaged than adult, which is reflective in their behavior. Forcing them out may not bee a good thing. Forcing them out without them being able to provide for themselves is downright awful. Now I know the USA has awful laws in many places, but there should be some to protect people that can’t or cannot afford to defend themselves. Young adults are such people.
Were I live parents are forced to pay for the education of their children even after they grow up. At least for the first education.
If you’re unable to, then the responsible thing is for your parents to help you out, if they’re able to.
There is, however, a point where you start to look after your parents as they age, so if you’re a grown adult and working, then you should at least be cost neutral to your folks.
Yes you help your parents when they need help as they age, that is what is done in a healthy family. Most of the times it’s a one-way street and I feel like it’s most often in the direction indicated in picture above