(Israel’s influence is insane)

  • @Nuke_the_whales
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    -285 months ago

    Do you know how many kids and innocents Hamas has killed? Or does that not matter?

    • @Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In
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      155 months ago

      Ah. We are doing whataboutism. Ok.

      How many Israeli supermodels have been dropped specifically due to violent Israeli actions?

      • @Nuke_the_whales
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        -25 months ago

        How many American models have been dropped for trying to genocide my people and invading my country without cause?

        • @AngryCommieKender
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          What country? And it had better be the one of the only two we invaded “without cause.”

          • @Nuke_the_whales
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            -15 months ago

            It’s funny cause I don’t have to tell you what country I’m from and you have a wide range of choice. Fix your own shit america

            • @AngryCommieKender
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              Right, so you’re lying to yourself, since you aren’t living in one of the two, and you don’t know which two I even mean.

              Believe me, we’re trying to fix shit, but the last time we left the rest of the world alone, you guys dragged us kicking and screaming into WWI, and then Japan decided to be Japan during WWII. We can’t leave the rest of the world alone, you’ll start WWIII, and we really don’t want to use our nukes. That’s just a few blowhard politicians like Trump.

              Also we don’t have anything but defensive troops deployed currently so we aren’t invading anyone currently.

    • @pyre
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      no it doesn’t. it literally does not matter for this conversation. unless you have any evidence that she’s part of Hamas. just like Israel’s point doesn’t matter unless she was the Palestinian who killed the Israelis in the '76 Olympics.

      • @Nuke_the_whales
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        -45 months ago

        So it matters one way but not the other. Different rules. Got it.

        • @pyre
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          25 months ago

          no, you’ve demonstrated that you very much haven’t got it.

          • @Nuke_the_whales
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            -25 months ago

            Wrong think is bad here, I got it. Don’t worry.

            • @pyre
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              25 months ago

              no, you really, really haven’t got it.

    • @Davin
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      115 months ago

      It’s far, far less than Israel has killed. Before Oct 7th, it was about ten to one Palestinians killed for every Israeli killed. Now it’s much much worse and getting worse everyday. Or does that not matter?

      Now, can we say Hamas is bad? Of course we can, but by whatever metrics we use to call out Hamas as being bad, Israel is at least ten times worse.

      You can’t bring in the amount of children Hamas has killed, and at the same time ignore that Is real has killed way more, and expect people to take you seriously. And if you want to try to play the “who shot first” game, that was also Israel, forcing its way into the land that they now occupy. And every square inch they have invaded since.

    • @[email protected]
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      85 months ago

      It matters, but for Israel to object to the presence of a Palestinian on the grounds that others of her genetic stock killed some of theirs is both nonsensical (she can’t be held responsible for the actions of others just because they share a skin tone) and hypocritical (because they are currently engaged in the same activity, on a greater scale). I won’t be taking further questions.

      • @Nuke_the_whales
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        -55 months ago

        No I understand. Only IDF crimes matter and they reflect on all of Israel, Hamas crimes don’t matter and they reflect on no Palestinians, even Hamas! Only one side may be criticized, and being critical of the other side is forbidden here. I understand.

        • @pyre
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          25 months ago

          i love that you keep saying you understand and demonstrating the opposite.

    • @AngryCommieKender
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      Considering that the death toll is always between 100:1 and 1000:1 and has been since 1967, no it doesn’t. Israel doesn’t do proportional responses. I used to support Israel as an idea and a country, but they just keep being racist fascist assholes.

      Seeing the Israeli response to Hamas just makes me feel that Israel was a mistake that should be corrected. Palestine can have the entire country, and call it a day.

      Before Israel was created, the Jewish peoples had already adopted a country as their new Zion. It’s called the US. They can come back home, and stop stealing other people’s homes.