Yeah… A lot of it is just reddit-like powermod activities and the insane bureaucracy and rule lawyering there if you go to any remotely controversial talk page. You would not trust info on Wikipedia if you saw how the sausage is made on the talk pages.
Essentially, he was a wikipedia admin who first got noticed during the GamerGate nonsense of essentially abusing his power to protect “his” pet pages, preventing other people from editing in the English translation of the Japanese show as oppose to the Romanji transliteration, and he got involved with the drama by obsessively editing Wikipedia to smear anyone on either side that angered him, until even Jimmy Wales noticed and told him to stop, he refused, then Wikipedia arbitration had to step in to permaban him, then he went to RationalWiki who initially welcomed him, until his obsessive page guarding tendency got him banned from there too.
Yes, this is every bit as dumb as it sounds, and it’s quite eye opening to see just how dysfunctional Wikipedia really is.
But then again, in the end it is functional, isn’t it? Guy started messing around and got shown the door, would’ve been far worse if he was still there. Assholes are everywhere, the fact that they get what they deserve is a plus to me.
“Functional” would not be the right word to use, because I skipped hundreds of pages of rule lawyering on talk pages, and even after Ryulong was kicked off he still told his friend on the admin team to keep preventing his pet pages from edited.
Wikipedia’s rules are so arcane and self-contradictory that the power users can rule lawyer their way into justifying nearly everything, whereas normal people just don’t want to deal with these things.
Yeah… A lot of it is just reddit-like powermod activities and the insane bureaucracy and rule lawyering there if you go to any remotely controversial talk page. You would not trust info on Wikipedia if you saw how the sausage is made on the talk pages.
Look up this guy called Ryulong for example.
I tried looking him up but all the info seems very confusing, do you have a tl;dr (or a link to somewhere that explains it in a decent way)?
Essentially, he was a wikipedia admin who first got noticed during the GamerGate nonsense of essentially abusing his power to protect “his” pet pages, preventing other people from editing in the English translation of the Japanese show as oppose to the Romanji transliteration, and he got involved with the drama by obsessively editing Wikipedia to smear anyone on either side that angered him, until even Jimmy Wales noticed and told him to stop, he refused, then Wikipedia arbitration had to step in to permaban him, then he went to RationalWiki who initially welcomed him, until his obsessive page guarding tendency got him banned from there too.
Yes, this is every bit as dumb as it sounds, and it’s quite eye opening to see just how dysfunctional Wikipedia really is.
I see, thanks.
But then again, in the end it is functional, isn’t it? Guy started messing around and got shown the door, would’ve been far worse if he was still there. Assholes are everywhere, the fact that they get what they deserve is a plus to me.
“Functional” would not be the right word to use, because I skipped hundreds of pages of rule lawyering on talk pages, and even after Ryulong was kicked off he still told his friend on the admin team to keep preventing his pet pages from edited.
Wikipedia’s rules are so arcane and self-contradictory that the power users can rule lawyer their way into justifying nearly everything, whereas normal people just don’t want to deal with these things.