I don’t think anyone is really caring about his die-hard cult members. I’m specifically talking about people who are/were undecided somehow. She will make him look weak, idiotic, and just flat shut him down on his bullshitting and lies. He’s afraid of her, and showing that on a national stage will remind people what he really is. Guarantee to see a shift in polling if they debate, which he’s trying to worm his way out of now because he’s afraid of her.