• @[email protected]
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    345 months ago

    Honestly, I am too.

    I fully expected it, but not this soon.

    Looking forward to more though. Every one of these is just more votes against Trump.

    • GladiusB
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      195 months ago

      My hope is not to change them. But it is to change their children. Or those adjacent. If we keep trying to change them, we will never win.

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        We’ll never change the base. Their investment in Trump and conservatism is more akin to religious faith than ideology, and just as with religion, to question it would be to undermine the basis for their (clearly unjustified) conviction that they’re decent and moral.

        I don’t think we really need to worry about changing their children either. Their children are already changing, which is an awful lot of the reason for their egregiously anti-democracy panic. They recognize at some level that the tide of history is turning against them, and they can’t stand it. They think they can stop that process through force and fraud, and don’t seem to understand that all they can do that way is maybe postpone it a bit, or that bybtrying to save their justly dying ideology that way, they ensure that a day of reckoning will come - that they’ll go down in history as not just an abandoned ideology, but a justly condemned one.