The first time, I was unfortunately still deep in the cult. I was on his side and then some. I was actually attending Falls Creek at the time. The second time, I met him in the Capitol as part of a large group and got to ask a few questions. Just wasn’t an appropriate venue to air grievances given the context, which I’d rather not share too much about to avoid identifying myself. I was also only just barely getting out of the other side of my Christianity, so still did not have the faculties about me to even pinpoint my own grievances.