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A police officer has been filmed kicking and stamping on the head of a man lying on the ground at Manchester Airport.
The uniformed male officer is seen holding a Taser over the man, who is lying face down, before striking him twice while other officers shout at onlookers to stay back in a video shared widely online.
Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said firearms officers had been attacked while attempting to arrest someone following a fight in the airport’s Terminal 2 on Tuesday. It said it had referred itself to the police watchdog.
Anger has grown over the video and a crowd of what appeared to be several hundred people protested outside the police station in Rochdale, Greater Manchester, on Wednesday evening.
Yeah, I just googled “police brutality quebec” and it doesn’t sound like that’s really working out for you.
Just like if you do the same search no matter where you’ll find examples, it doesn’t mean there aren’t places where the situation is better than others and that they shouldn’t be used as an example.
You’ll never get rid of it completely, just like you’ll never get rid of bankers committing fraud completely, just like you’ll never get rid of criminals completely, you can still try to improve things. In the UK cops don’t have guns, in Quebec the selection process is much harder to go through, what is the US doing? 6 months of training, take pretty much anyone, militarize the police force… Well buddy, what do you think will happen?
What if I told you that we can get rid of police brutality? We can get rid of bankers committing fraud. We can get rid of crime.
The main thing that stops us from creating a better world is refusing to believe that it’s possible.
If we work together and dismantle the existing power structures that oppress us, then we can solve all of these problems. They’re fundamentally problems of inequality and capitalism.
Tell me, how do you eliminate nature?
Do you think violence didn’t exist where capitalism wasn’t a thing? You might need a trigger warning if you start reading on first Nations and their pre-European colonization history…
So the first thing you need to do is recognize that nature is a social construct and nothing that happened before the 19th century counts.
Co-operation is in the nature of humankind. Violence will tend to occur when there is competition for resources. We have the technology and philosophy necessary to create a world where everyone can live a comfortable life without any need to compete for food, water, shelter, medicine or education.
If we work together and prevent people from forming unequal hierarchies, then the few people who still try to impose their will on others can be stopped by the rest of us.
It’s in our nature just like fear of strangers is and that means our nature is to see people as being either in or out of our group and wanting to protect our group from the other group.
It’s very nice that you can imagine a utopia but that’s just a dream that will never become true because of our nature.
We’ve proven quite successfully that we are able to overcome our fear of strangers successfully enough to create civilisation. There is no reason that we can’t overcome any part of our nature to achieve a better world. Your beliefs are holding us back - the major thing blocking us from taking decisive action is because people don’t believe that a better world is possible. It is. We just have to be bold, take the opportunity and leave capitalism in the past where it belongs.
As I already mentioned in another comment, it’s not about capitalism, first Nations didn’t have capitalism before Europeans arrived, it didn’t prevent them from having deadly conflicts and people who wouldn’t follow the rules they had in place.
That’s like saying ‘boys will be boys’ to explain away sexual harassment or extreme hazing.
It is not, and never has been, a valid excuse.
No it’s not, accumulating resources is natural (heck, our body does it without us intervening, that’s what fat is!), you’ll never prevent 100% of the population from doing it or trying to do it, we’re animals that are good at throwing rocks.