• Cowbee [he/him]
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    24 months ago

    Why do you believe people who have a strong stance must be ignoring facts to have a strong stance?

    • @Cryophilia
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      14 months ago

      Straw man. Or misunderstanding.

        • @Cryophilia
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          24 months ago

          You declared a causality that I did not intend to imply.

          • Cowbee [he/him]
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            44 months ago

            Still, dogmatism in any form is a plague. Pro Americanism, anti Americanism, whatever. Ignoring facts to suit your chosen narrative is gross.

            You are directly implying that pro-americanism and anti-americanism are dogmatism, and that these stances necessarily ignore facts to suit their chosen narrative.

            You can elaborate what you meant here.

            Even if you did not intend on implying this, you did introduce the concept of dogmatism to a conversation surrounding how Lemmy generally leans anti-America, inserting on your hand an implication that this is due to dogmatism. You’re accusing the average Lemmy user of dogmatism by association, simply for holding an anti-America stance.

            • @Cryophilia
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              34 months ago

              That’s what I meant by causality. Pro-americanism and anti-americanism are not inherently dogmatic. It’s just that the anti-american sentiments I see on lemmy are usually dogmatic. It’s an observational theorem, not a derived one.

              • Cowbee [he/him]
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                -14 months ago

                So it’s a vibe you personally feel, and wished to interject unrelated, got it.

                  • Cowbee [he/him]
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                    -14 months ago

                    “Anti-Americanism is bad” -> “It’s not really Anti-American, it’s Anti-America” -> “Dogmatism and belief in something while ignoring countering facts is bad”

                    It’s an assertion of dogmatism on the Anti-America crowd with no real frame of reference.