• @nl4real
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    When are people actually going to leave that hellsite in meaningful numbers?

    • @nforminvasion
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      When they don’t also deepthroat Netflix after they banned password sharing. All the optimistic people, me included, said “oh this will make a huge dent in Netflix what a stupid move.” But they read the room like a hawk.

      People swallowed the hook and signed up in huge numbers. https://www.businessinsider.com/netflix-password-sharing-crackdown-worked-how-to-increase-subscription-streaming-2024-1

      The West has created the perfect neutered, obedient consumers who will drink whatever coolade they are given. Until we have enough people who are willing to challenge convenience and stop bowing at the altar of comfort, we will have no meaningful change.

      • @[email protected]
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        221 month ago

        You even got people on the left saying “I won’t vote for the less bad politician unless he makes me excited to vote”. When did everyone get so selfish?

        • @Ensign_Crab
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          61 month ago

          Got people in the center being like “we love bad politicians because they do everything we want. Fuck you, you’re voting like we tell you” and then they expect that shit to work.

          Look at what happened when the party listened and gave us a candidate who could fog a mirror and who might not be as happy with genocide as centrists want.

        • @Aceticon
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          One doesn’t need to be a Leftie to be wary of voting for a guy supporting with weapons ethno-Fascists commiting mass murder, including bombing playgrounds and sniping children playing in their own homes, even if the other guy is also a Fascist.

          It’s not by chance that merelly replacing Biden it Kamala quickly started to bring back such voter.

          The only way to think that being in the least of ways humane and not agreeing with mass murder of children is a “leftwing” thing is if you live in a country with an Overtoon Window shifted so far to the right that almost all of the political spectrum is either Fascism or pro-Oligarchy.

          • @barsquid
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            I too am a very left leftist and that’s why this election I will check notes do exactly what the far right rightists want by voting for a third party. There will be no genocide after we elect Jill Stein, which is realistic because if she had triple the popular votes last time she could have beat libertarian Gary Johnson. There is no possible downside because there will certainly be no genocide with the far right rightists running on a platform of bigotry while saying they will have dictatorship, that Israel should nuke Gaza, that the world should let Russia run roughshod over Ukraine.

            • @Aceticon
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              -41 month ago

              That satire of yours is entirelly anchored on a False Dilema Falacy.

              • @barsquid
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                I’m agreeing with you, friend. Mathematically only one of two candidates has any chance whatsoever. That’s why I, a very far left leftist, will do exactly what is desired by the further right of the two parties. That will achieve leftism because of reasons.

          • @[email protected]
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            31 month ago

            You’re right. The people who put their principles above Palestinian lives aren’t left wing. They’re centrists. An actual leftist puts helping others first. Voting Democrat reduces the harm that others suffer. Abstaining does nothing to help anyone. But there are some people who will choose to let brown people in the middle east die, when they could have easily prevented it, if it means they get to have clean hands and avoid some kind of misplaced guilt. They think for some reason that a vote equals a bomb, and that choosing to be a centrist means opting out of responsibility for their government’s actions. They think they can live all alone in their white middle class suburban bubble. That their inaction means they can’t have any of the blame laid at their feet. They pay taxes to the US government, which uses the taxes to buy bombs to kill Palestinians, and these centrists think that choosing not to take responsibility for how their tax dollars are spent makes them guiltless. And that taking on a guilty conscience by accepting responsibility, is a bigger price to pay than genocide and war.

            • Diva (she/her)
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              So let me get your position straight:

              The people voting egarly for the warcriminal government: not responsible for their governments actions

              The people so disgusted by their governments actions such that they vote 3rd party: completely responsible for their governments actions

              You’re Canadian right? Go yell at people to vote in your election

              • @[email protected]
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                31 month ago

                Yep, you got my position straight. See, the difference is whether they’re taking action to mitigate the impact of their taxes. If you do nothing, it’s your fault. If you try to make it right as best you can, it’s not your fault.

                Like I said, these non voters think votes turn into bombs and not dollars. They think every bomb dropped on Gaza has a little ballot slip in it with Joe Biden’s name on it. Us leftists know that votes for the best candidate do not make the problem worse.

                • Diva (she/her)
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                  But voting for the second in command for the guy that was just bypassing congress to send weapons to the occupation doesn’t seem to be ‘taking action’ it seems to be rewarding people for participating in a slaughter (wringing your hands as you send ammunition still counts as sending ammunition)

                  You have just come up with a conclusion that makes you feel good personally and are vomiting word garbage to attempt to justify it to other people.

                  • @[email protected]
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                    31 month ago

                    No, I can’t vote in American elections because I’m not a resident or a citizen. This isn’t about me feeling good, I can’t take any action in the election and therefore I don’t have a dog in that fight. No, my dog in the fight is my partner, who lives in America. They’re trans and I don’t want them dead. That’s my motivation for trying to prevent a genocide. That, and a general sense of universal ethics.

      • @[email protected]
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        Honestly it was a bit weird everyone on social saying Netflix was about to die. They would spend millions on market research. Thousands of man hours, and the usage data to support it.

        It’s pretty arrogant to conclude that you know better.

        I don’t really mean you specifically. This happens often with large companies. Like people thinking reddit would die.

        Twitter is a special case though IMO. It was shit to start with, and it’s become aggressively partisan.

        • @Emerald
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          Twitter is a special case though IMO. It was shit to start with, and it’s become aggressively partisan.

          Yep. Because Twitter is now a far-right social media. Just like Gab and Truth Social. I don’t know why so many people don’t get that.

        • @the_tab_key
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          Just on the face of it, why would Netflix even have been concerned that this change would hurt their bottom line? The bulk of the people that the change pissed off weren’t paying for the service to start with!

          • @[email protected]
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            it seems as though a lot of people were cancelling their subscriptions on the basis that it was a dramatic over-reach from netflix, and naively assumed that the all of netflix’ users were the same.

      • oce 🐆
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        The West has created the perfect neutered, obedient consumers who will drink whatever coolade they are given.

        Do you imply that this is specific to Western country?
        Because the number of things Chinese consumers just accept is astonishing. They have been using “pay with your face” payment method for a while, and people are just rolling with it. https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/China-tech/Pay-with-your-face-100m-Chinese-switch-from-smartphones I think there’s a bigger percentage of privacy focused people in EU and NA than anywhere else.

      • @[email protected]
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        coolade
        Kool-Aid

        Don’t blame me for this confusing bastardization of the English language, thank a guy from Nebraska literally 100 years ago.

          • @[email protected]
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            Uhh no actually I think that was a knockoff competitor brand cause that said 1929 and I’m pretty sure it was a guy Named Perkins in the earlier 20s.

            I think that’s just something else. The original is Kool-aid

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              The expression is “drank the Kool-Aid”, but it should be Flavor-Aid, because that’s what the cultists actually drank while committing suicide. dying (not all committed suicide).

              • @Buddahriffic
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                It wasn’t really a suicide thing. Maybe for some of them, it was. But they were forced to drink that flavour aid at gunpoint if they didn’t drink it willingly or manage to flee into the jungle. So it was more of a massacre than a mass suicide. Or a massacre plus a mass suicide, as I’m not sure what portion had to be forced.

                • @[email protected]
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                  Sounds good. I haven’t read up on that any time recently so my memory was hazy. The main point I was trying to make was the Flavor-Aid vs Kool-Aid, though, which stands.

                  • @Buddahriffic
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                    Yeah, wasn’t intending on contradicting your main point, just wanted to throw that trivia in because the pop culture version is that either the cultists had no idea the drinks were poisoned (they knew) or that they all willingly went into the suicide pact (some did, some didn’t but were forced, some made it out alive).

              • @[email protected]
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                Yup… Yeah wow learn something new every day. Like cults don’t splurge for name brand even for ritual suicide.

            • @Omgpwnies
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              I was talking about the mis-attribution of the brand name Kool-Aid in the phrase “drank the Kool-Aid” as a result of Jonestown… they actually drank Flavor Aid

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                Ohhhhh…

                Wow cheap even until the end that they bought Walmart generic.

                I mean why take the good stuff with you right?

                That’s hilarious though thanks for that correction I was definitely confused.

      • @[email protected]
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        Except the governments and corporations are there because that’s where most of the people are.

        Users are still so ignorant to the fact that they are actually the product that Twitter sells. Some of them even pay for that privilege. 🙄

    • @yamanii
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      When other social medias also let’s artists post NSFW alongside regular users for maximum exposure.

      • @riodoro1
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        Why do we suddenly need an alternative to something we could live without just fine before?

        • @Crashumbc
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          141 month ago

          Yet you’re here on Lemmy?

          That is a disingenuous argument. People lived just “fine” before just about everything. People use those services because they derive value from it.

    • @UnderpantsWeevil
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      They have. But when you’re starting with hundreds of millions of users, it’s a slow bleed.

      There’s also not a lot of great alternatives. Threads is all ads. Rumble is just more MAGA shit. Mastodon/Lemmy is too fractured and lacks sufficient infrastructure as a global platform. BlueSky doesn’t have a critical mass of users yet.