Ok so specifically if I choose not identify as a catholic, go to church, support or to give money to the Catholic church will anything happen to me inside the United States in 2024? And My follow up question does this mean I cannot or do not still believe in the same “God”?
Ah so you get to the important part: if you go to a sane Catholic Church in the United States, choose to identify as catholic or not, choose to donate or otherwise support the church or not, choose to believe in “the same God” or not, nothing will happen to you.
Similarly, said church won’t be responsible for the previously mentioned horrible things.
Also similarly, if you refuse to pay taxes in the U.S., the absolute worst that will happen to you is you spend some time in jail, but unless you are someone like Al Capone it won’t go that far. You certainly won’t be killed.
The overall point is, extrapolating the most extreme minority of an inhomogeneous group to make assumptions about every individual in the group is a strawman fallacy of an argument.
In jail my life would be to essential over. Like this conversation with you. You have to draw the line somewhere. If I could exist as I wished without giving my taxes to a government that uses them to drop bombs on kids i would make that choice. I also would vote for whoever promises to not do that. You know doing the bare minimum. Like not covering up for, expelling from my organization, and prosecuting pedophilles. But whatever makes you feel better about supporting kid fuckers.
Most people engage in religion in ways that doesn’t have anything to do with the horrible things the worst people who practice that religion do.
My local church flies a pride flag. If you want to support getting bad priests out of church, make sure that the church you attend, donate to, and volunteer for represents your values. You know, doing the bare minimum. But whatever makes you feel better about supporting the military industrial complex.
I don’t dress up in special clothes and attend meetings where I praise and pass a collection plate for the military complex. I didn’t join the military or volunteer to even serve them soup. If I could opt out of any and all support for them I would if there was a choice. But your so brainwashed you think you don’t have a choice to not go to church lol. That’s what it comes down to. You have a choice with your religion. You do not have choice in your “country”. I understand in some countries you don’t have a choice. But in the USA if you are choosing to support that type of religious organization your a coward and a coconspirator. This is your whole argument "My denomination of the KKK is a good one, we barely do any racism. " lol
But your so brainwashed you think you don’t have a choice to not go to church lol.
You’re so brainwashed you think this is what 100% of religion looks like. I choose to go to my church and I know my church does not support and will not stand for priests committing crimes.
"My denomination of the KKK is a good one, we barely do any racism. "
This argument is assuming religion is fundamentally organized about hurting children, which is, of course, ridiculous. This is a textbook strawman argument.
The fallacy doesn’t have to do with whether or not people have a choice in participating, it’s taking the absolute most extreme worst subset of a group and using that to represent the entire group, despite there being a huge variety and that subset really being only representative of a tiny fraction.
That’s why I’m equating it to the idea that all Americans are war mongers. It’s a closely related train of thought to racism and sexism as well.
You also shouldn’t claim to be a part of <insert country here>.
If I don’t pay taxes, they kill me. Can you tell me the same about religion?
I mean yeah many religions have extreme sects that will enforce harsh consequences for not participating.
Ok so specifically if I choose not identify as a catholic, go to church, support or to give money to the Catholic church will anything happen to me inside the United States in 2024? And My follow up question does this mean I cannot or do not still believe in the same “God”?
Ah so you get to the important part: if you go to a sane Catholic Church in the United States, choose to identify as catholic or not, choose to donate or otherwise support the church or not, choose to believe in “the same God” or not, nothing will happen to you.
Similarly, said church won’t be responsible for the previously mentioned horrible things.
Also similarly, if you refuse to pay taxes in the U.S., the absolute worst that will happen to you is you spend some time in jail, but unless you are someone like Al Capone it won’t go that far. You certainly won’t be killed.
The overall point is, extrapolating the most extreme minority of an inhomogeneous group to make assumptions about every individual in the group is a strawman fallacy of an argument.
In jail my life would be to essential over. Like this conversation with you. You have to draw the line somewhere. If I could exist as I wished without giving my taxes to a government that uses them to drop bombs on kids i would make that choice. I also would vote for whoever promises to not do that. You know doing the bare minimum. Like not covering up for, expelling from my organization, and prosecuting pedophilles. But whatever makes you feel better about supporting kid fuckers.
Most people engage in religion in ways that doesn’t have anything to do with the horrible things the worst people who practice that religion do.
My local church flies a pride flag. If you want to support getting bad priests out of church, make sure that the church you attend, donate to, and volunteer for represents your values. You know, doing the bare minimum. But whatever makes you feel better about supporting the military industrial complex.
I don’t dress up in special clothes and attend meetings where I praise and pass a collection plate for the military complex. I didn’t join the military or volunteer to even serve them soup. If I could opt out of any and all support for them I would if there was a choice. But your so brainwashed you think you don’t have a choice to not go to church lol. That’s what it comes down to. You have a choice with your religion. You do not have choice in your “country”. I understand in some countries you don’t have a choice. But in the USA if you are choosing to support that type of religious organization your a coward and a coconspirator. This is your whole argument "My denomination of the KKK is a good one, we barely do any racism. " lol
You’re so brainwashed you think this is what 100% of religion looks like. I choose to go to my church and I know my church does not support and will not stand for priests committing crimes.
This argument is assuming religion is fundamentally organized about hurting children, which is, of course, ridiculous. This is a textbook strawman argument.
The fallacy doesn’t have to do with whether or not people have a choice in participating, it’s taking the absolute most extreme worst subset of a group and using that to represent the entire group, despite there being a huge variety and that subset really being only representative of a tiny fraction.
That’s why I’m equating it to the idea that all Americans are war mongers. It’s a closely related train of thought to racism and sexism as well.