• @yetiftw
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      13 months ago

      that is an effect, not a definition

      • @[email protected]
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        23 months ago

        No, it’s a definition. I’m a utilitarian, so I only value pleasure and avoiding suffering.

        • @yetiftw
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          13 months ago

          but what about a general definition of value that encapsulates everyone’s experiences and not only yours?

          • @[email protected]
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            23 months ago

            I don’t care who experiences the pleasure or suffering. Individual ego is an illusion. The self is a social construct. The divisions between oneself and others are a lie.

            • @yetiftw
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              13 months ago

              you misunderstand. you told me what you value. I asked for a definition of value. something can be valuable (by being valuable to someone else) even if you yourself do not value it

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                03 months ago

                Why would I agree that Harry Potter is valuable if I don’t and cannot value it, even for its net effect on others?