Dutch beach volleyball player Steven van de Velde, who served time in prison after he was convicted of raping a 12-year-old girl, won his second match at the Paris Olympics and received an even harsher reaction from the crowd on Wednesday than for his first match.

  • @sandbox
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    1 month ago

    I didn’t say randomly selected, I said selected with some kind of fair and democratic process. Random selection I wouldn’t really personally feel is a good idea.

    You’re still not engaging with my core point, you’re trying to pick holes. Forget everything you think that a “system of laws” has to be. Scrap it all. It doesn’t need to be complex or overbearing. It can be relatively simple. It doesn’t need people arguing over the specific wording of legal codes written in impenetrable legalese.

    The intent is to have a system that is fair, equitable and just. Most laws can be replaced with the golden rules and the adjudication can be a matter of, “in this fair, or not fair? how can we resolve this matter fairly?” and deciding that with consensus in a way that does not itself break the golden rules.

    It depends. The sooner that people like you realise that it’s our only chance, the sooner we can all take action. That’s why I’m taking the time to explain this. We need to work together. The few of us who already understand these ideas aren’t yet enough to make this happen.

    • Flying SquidM
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      11 month ago

      A fair and democratic process requires a whole bunch of laws to ensure that process is, in fact, fair and democratic, so…

      • @sandbox
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        11 month ago

        Keep chipping away at that mind prison. You’ll find a way out eventually. Have a great night!

        • Flying SquidM
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          11 month ago

          Yes, it’s a ‘mind prison’ to suggest that you can’t have a fair and democratic election without laws to ensure that the election is fair and democratic.

          By the way, I should point out that judges are elected in much of the U.S. Which is what you were advocating for anyway.

          • @sandbox
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            11 month ago

            You are living your entire life in a cardboard box, saying “The walls must always be brown. The walls have always been brown. What colour would you make the walls?” and when I explain that there wont be walls, you declare, “nonsense! without walls, how would the roof be held up?” and when I say there wouldn’t be a roof either, you say “ah, but without a roof, you wouldn’t be able to know whether you’re looking up or down!”

            • Flying SquidM
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              11 month ago

              Cool. You still can’t have a fair election without election laws to ensure that.

              Believe it or not, people are not all naturally honest and honorable.

              • @sandbox
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                11 month ago

                You’re going in circles. I have never used the term “election”, nor have I said that there can be no rules. I have said repeatedly that rules would exist - just that they could be simple.

                I absolutely believe that people aren’t honest and honourable. That’s why I have been talking about consensus decisionmaking and abolishing power structures. I fully believe that power corrupts and therefore all unnecessary structures and hierarchies must be abolished. That includes money. Governments. Countries. States. Courts. The police. The whole lot has to go. It is the only way for a fair and equal society.

                And you’re out here talking about how US judges are elected, fucking lol.

                • Flying SquidM
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                  11 month ago

                  You said they would be democratically elected. That requires an election. So give me these simple election rules please.

                  • @sandbox
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                    11 month ago

                    Yeah, go ahead and quote where I wrote the phrase “democratically elected”. I know my own ideology better than you do.