Dutch beach volleyball player Steven van de Velde, who served time in prison after he was convicted of raping a 12-year-old girl, won his second match at the Paris Olympics and received an even harsher reaction from the crowd on Wednesday than for his first match.

  • Flying SquidM
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    15 months ago

    A fair and democratic process requires a whole bunch of laws to ensure that process is, in fact, fair and democratic, so…

    • @sandbox
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      15 months ago

      Keep chipping away at that mind prison. You’ll find a way out eventually. Have a great night!

      • Flying SquidM
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        15 months ago

        Yes, it’s a ‘mind prison’ to suggest that you can’t have a fair and democratic election without laws to ensure that the election is fair and democratic.

        By the way, I should point out that judges are elected in much of the U.S. Which is what you were advocating for anyway.

        • @sandbox
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          15 months ago

          You are living your entire life in a cardboard box, saying “The walls must always be brown. The walls have always been brown. What colour would you make the walls?” and when I explain that there wont be walls, you declare, “nonsense! without walls, how would the roof be held up?” and when I say there wouldn’t be a roof either, you say “ah, but without a roof, you wouldn’t be able to know whether you’re looking up or down!”

          • Flying SquidM
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            15 months ago

            Cool. You still can’t have a fair election without election laws to ensure that.

            Believe it or not, people are not all naturally honest and honorable.

            • @sandbox
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              15 months ago

              You’re going in circles. I have never used the term “election”, nor have I said that there can be no rules. I have said repeatedly that rules would exist - just that they could be simple.

              I absolutely believe that people aren’t honest and honourable. That’s why I have been talking about consensus decisionmaking and abolishing power structures. I fully believe that power corrupts and therefore all unnecessary structures and hierarchies must be abolished. That includes money. Governments. Countries. States. Courts. The police. The whole lot has to go. It is the only way for a fair and equal society.

              And you’re out here talking about how US judges are elected, fucking lol.

              • Flying SquidM
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                15 months ago

                You said they would be democratically elected. That requires an election. So give me these simple election rules please.

                • @sandbox
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                  15 months ago

                  Yeah, go ahead and quote where I wrote the phrase “democratically elected”. I know my own ideology better than you do.

                  • Flying SquidM
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                    15 months ago

                    This is what you said:

                    I didn’t say randomly selected, I said selected with some kind of fair and democratic process.

                    If you didn’t mean an election, what did you mean? What is a democratic process that doesn’t involve a vote?