I wonder if other cities in Europe have acted similar policies

  • ShadowRunner
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    -91 year ago

    The size of a person’s household or whether they live in the city are not the sole factors that go into a decision on what car to purchase.

    A person can live alone but regularly car pool with coworkers, get together with multiple friends, go on day trips with family, or make extra income by driving for Uber (larger vehicles can charge more). Heck, sometimes just needing extra leg or head room rules out most regular sedans and makes an SUV more comfortable.

    In addition, if a person’s activities require a lot of cargo capacity, that essentially leaves you with either an SUV or a pickup as the primary options. So whether it’s for luggage, buying stock for a family store, etc… that could be another reason for purchasing an SUV.

    Sometimes, people feel that having a higher view of the road is safer because they can see more of what’s ahead of them.

    So don’t fall prey to judging people as only needing an SUV if they have a large household or live in rural areas. It’s a lot more involved than that.

    • @Hairypooper
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      101 year ago

      For cargo capacity nothing beats a simple small business van.

      Pickups are nothing more than a dick measuring contest that guys are desperate to justify to themselves.

    • @[email protected]
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      51 year ago

      The reason pickups are as popular as they are in the US is mostly because they are heavily advertised. US people like trucks because corporate America tells them to, very effectively. They sell so many trucks because they want to, and there is two reasons for that.

      The first is a long standing trade tariff with the EU that prevented significant competition in that specific category. The second is that environmental regulations are more lax on that same category, presumably lobbying has to do with that.

      A person can live alone but regularly car pool with coworkers, get together with multiple friends, go on day trips with family, or make extra income by driving for Uber (larger vehicles can charge more). Heck, sometimes just needing extra leg or head room rules out most regular sedans and makes an SUV more comfortable.

      Most SUVs and trucks have much less room for people than equivalently sized other vehicles. If you want very comfortable and roomy, look up a minivan. A VW Transporter has enough space inside to have a table you can sit around, seats more, if needed has more cargo space, consumes less fuel and is smaller and safer than an F-150.

      In addition, if a person’s activities require a lot of cargo capacity, that essentially leaves you with either an SUV or a pickup as the primary options. So whether it’s for luggage, buying stock for a family store, etc… that could be another reason for purchasing an SUV.

      You can buy a van with more cargo space than either a SUV or a truck.

      Sometimes, people feel that having a higher view of the road is safer because they can see more of what’s ahead of them.

      On the contrary, data shows that the higher centre of mass makes it much likelier that the truck will roll over, making them much more unsafe. This actually more than offsets the fact that in collisions, trucks and SUVs cause more damage to the counterparties, so they are more dangerous to both the occupants and everyone else. That said, if it makes you feel good that you will “win” a collision, consider the fact that the counterparty is also human, and may be someone you know. Every week, 50 children, predominantly toddlers get hit by their own parents driving SUVs, mostly while parking or getting out of their own parking area, due to the bad visibility these vehicles provide.

      So don’t fall prey to judging people as only needing an SUV if they have a large household or live in rural areas. It’s a lot more involved than that.

      It’s actually very simple. No-one needs a SUV or a truck, large households or business owners need vans, rural people need actual off-roads which they don’t care if they get all scratched and banged up from actually being used off-road.

      US car manufacturers on the contrary NEED you to buy SUVs and trucks, and they spend a ton of money trying to convince you that you think you need that, too.

    • @FireRetardant
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      21 year ago

      I’m an avid outdoorsman and I have no problem with cargo capacity in my Nissan Micra. It can fit up to 5 people with some space for cargo still in the back. It can also fit loads of fishing and canoeing/kayaking gearing with the boats strapped up top. My hitch lets me easily bring my bike anywhere. In the winter it fits a 6 foot sled full of ice fishing gear including a 3 man pop up tent and everything needed to spend multiple nights on the ice. The majority of my cargo fits inside the car where it can stay dry, and secure from wind, rain and theft unlike the back of a pick up truck. Aside from already assembled furniture, there isnt much my car can’t haul. I live somewhere with harsh winters and back country logging roads and the micra handles both just fine despite being FWD.

    • @Jintro
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      11 year ago

      There is a reason practically anyone who has a business that needs them to transport stuff drives a van in Belgium, more space, more practical. SUV’s are the weapon of choice for the middle class suburban people, and make driving unsafer for every other person on the road. I can see a use case for people working forestry, but that’s a very small percentage of the population. And that is the normal SUV kind. Those dumb trucks are unpractical compensation vehicles that are neither built for European roads, parking spaces or gas prices, and the only reason to ever buy one in Europe is being an idiot.