The opening ceremony wasn’t mocking any religion, it was an homage to Dionysus.
Saying you can’t offend a religious person but then getting offended by a misunderstanding of an artistic ceremony is peak irony.
The rest of your comment reads like a fox news host going for a hate filled misinformation speed run record, so I don’t think there’s any point trying to point out logical inconsistencies or try to show you that we’re not the boogey man (or the boogie non binary people) you hate us being. Hopefully you can stop listening to the rhetoric that actually causes division, meet some real life trans or non-binary people (like me, I’m not easily offended but will call you out for being intolerant) and touch grass.
You are just trying to defend your trans hate. Guess what? Trans people and drag queens (drag queens usually arent trans) exist. The zombie you worship doesnt.
I’m not hating on anyone, besides International Olympic Committee, as those pieces of shit have no problem bitching about a surfer having jesus on his board and at the same time decide to mock an entire religion on the opening ceremony. How come you don’t see something wrong with that logic?
Last time I checked drag queens and whatnot aren’t the majority of the world’s population, so why would anyone choose that minority doing a performance like that for the “ceremony” then? Since when does it represent anyone besides the said minority?
Why should they? If you’ve a majority that’s the culture that should be represented not a minority instead. This applies to everything in life not only ideologies.
Right, because its either or right? Why dont you tell me all about the hardships you’ve suffered from allowing minorities to be heard and included in society?
Maybe you are just running out of people to either blame or abuse, depending on if you are either poor or wealthy.
The same law the French use to remove the religious images in public, is the law they use to demand Muslims don’t have public displays and must further integrate into France’s secular public culture. There is an exception to the rule, historically significant displays of religion can’t be removed. The only historically significant displays in France are all Catholic displays.
This does mean they have to make people remove non historical images of any nature, a surfboard isn’t 100 year old.
I’m sorry did you think I had a favorite religion? All you religious folk are either insane or complacent, but I treat both the same.
Its fitting that the younger generations shy further and further away from religion, and all the old people who won’t learn anything new anymore can just sit and watch.
Wow, that’s… something. I read a bunch of articles about it, but it seems strange that nobody answers some really basic questions: Even if the scene was modeled on The Last Supper, so what? How is that mocking Christians? (I’ve seen more parodies of that painting than I can count.) The artistic director apparently denies it, so what motives are people alleging are his secret motives?
And, then, even if it was mockery, why does he (and presumably the performers) deserve death?
I never said they deserved death. I said it doesn’t make sense to push a minority into it like that.
I also said later on that this would’ve ended very differently if this same live performance happened in an Islamic country. I said that to point out that in organizations like IOC act like they can do whatever they want push whatever narrative they like more in Europe, US and other places but then when they do stuff in Islamic suddenly they change their tone. Why the double standards? Why do they believe they can obliterate all religious symbols and push for minorities in the western world but they don’t do the same elsewhere?
Even worse, why would we allow that in the western world? Note that I’m not saying Islamist are right when killing those people because of their ideologies is correct, I’m just saying the IOC and other organizations should respect the majority of people, religions and culture in the western world and act accordingly. I find it really hard to believe that there isn’t a single sane person in the IOC that could’ve just said "no you aren’t going to recreate the The Last Supper with drag queens, that makes no sense in a place where Christians are the majority and drag queens are a minority.
I am, but the IOC people aren’t for sure. Why would you choose a minority like that doing a performance like that one for the “ceremony”? Since when does it represent anyone besides the said minority? Why would you allow a minority to mock an entire religion that for better or worse is the largest religion in Europe? Makes no sense whatsoever.
Bottom line is: those in power keep pushing these bullshits and then regular, normal people otherwise tolerant and open to minorities and different ideas start to be radicalized - after all everyone has a limit on mockery against their culture.
You still think France, a former colony of Rome, doing the opening ceremonies to The Olympics, a tradition started by the ancient Greeks, using images of Dionysius, The Greek god of wine and festivities, was a mockery of Christianity, in one of the most Catholic countries that’s ever existed. Your DELUSIONAL, maybe consider therapy.
Because… nobody can say “we’ve lost people” while voting for people who push this kind of bullshit that will then “radicalize” the same people they’ll say that are lost.
Your comments are pretty weird dude, you might want to do some self reflection. This kind of attitude takes a lot of effort and drives people away. You could be doing something better for you right now.
No one has pointed out how stupid your specific post is because the entire internet has spent the past week pointing out how the Olympics opening ceremony had absolutely nothing to do with jesus. If you are choosing to ignore facts so that you can maintain your dumbass persecution complex, then there’s no reason for us to keep pointing it out to you. Instead we’re just going to mock your stupidity.
Nothing about either of your positions are “normal” the ultra rich are fueling a culture war, and the internet trogoldyte laps that shit up.
The rise of trans ideology making its way into the mainstream directly links with the occupy wallstreet movement and gay marriage legalization.
The ultra-rich have created a boogeyman, to distract and divide us, and now you all sit around defending or attacking it.
The average person does not spend their day mass posting on Lemmy and then arguing about gender in the comments.
Pointless.
You’re both useful idiots in this culture war though. You’ve both turned non-issues into hills to die on. And like the other guy said, little by little radicalized “normal” people into picking a side and making it a key part of your personality.
When the answer to your over caffeinated skreed of internal misunderstandings is ‘you clearly don’t understand what’s going on, this is what’s going on’, then you don’t register that as an answer?
Here answer my question first, why are you the man named Jeffery S. McMillan, so in love with Susan Thorton (22f apprentice cobbler) that your willing to move to Amsterdam on the future date of May 5, 2024? Explain yourself!
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The opening ceremony wasn’t mocking any religion, it was an homage to Dionysus.
Saying you can’t offend a religious person but then getting offended by a misunderstanding of an artistic ceremony is peak irony.
The rest of your comment reads like a fox news host going for a hate filled misinformation speed run record, so I don’t think there’s any point trying to point out logical inconsistencies or try to show you that we’re not the boogey man (or the boogie non binary people) you hate us being. Hopefully you can stop listening to the rhetoric that actually causes division, meet some real life trans or non-binary people (like me, I’m not easily offended but will call you out for being intolerant) and touch grass.
You are just trying to defend your trans hate. Guess what? Trans people and drag queens (drag queens usually arent trans) exist. The zombie you worship doesnt.
I’m not hating on anyone, besides International Olympic Committee, as those pieces of shit have no problem bitching about a surfer having jesus on his board and at the same time decide to mock an entire religion on the opening ceremony. How come you don’t see something wrong with that logic?
Last time I checked drag queens and whatnot aren’t the majority of the world’s population, so why would anyone choose that minority doing a performance like that for the “ceremony” then? Since when does it represent anyone besides the said minority?
What’s wrong with representing that minority?
Lol you said the quiet part out loud:
“Minorities dont deserve representation”
So sad they didnt pander to your views, must have made you feel all small and afraid.
Why should they? If you’ve a majority that’s the culture that should be represented not a minority instead. This applies to everything in life not only ideologies.
Right, because its either or right? Why dont you tell me all about the hardships you’ve suffered from allowing minorities to be heard and included in society?
Maybe you are just running out of people to either blame or abuse, depending on if you are either poor or wealthy.
The same law the French use to remove the religious images in public, is the law they use to demand Muslims don’t have public displays and must further integrate into France’s secular public culture. There is an exception to the rule, historically significant displays of religion can’t be removed. The only historically significant displays in France are all Catholic displays.
This does mean they have to make people remove non historical images of any nature, a surfboard isn’t 100 year old.
Oh, shit! I didn’t hear about this. How many people died?
Nobody, and that’s kind of the point. Imagine the games were hold in the UAE, I’m 100% sure a ton people would’ve died after that performance.
What performance? (I’m out of the loop.)
ETA: I tried a search. Is this about the boxer? The rapist volleyball player? The Taiwanese fan?
I posted the photo, but yeah you can read more about here and maybe view it on YouTube.
Catholics accuse trans people of being rude to them. What an impactful article, trans people really are doing catholics dirty.
Can you remind me how catholics treat LGBTQ people?
Yeah sure, let’s try to get this minority to do a live performance on a major event on some Islamic country and then we can discuss treatment.
I’m sorry did you think I had a favorite religion? All you religious folk are either insane or complacent, but I treat both the same.
Its fitting that the younger generations shy further and further away from religion, and all the old people who won’t learn anything new anymore can just sit and watch.
Wow, that’s… something. I read a bunch of articles about it, but it seems strange that nobody answers some really basic questions: Even if the scene was modeled on The Last Supper, so what? How is that mocking Christians? (I’ve seen more parodies of that painting than I can count.) The artistic director apparently denies it, so what motives are people alleging are his secret motives?
And, then, even if it was mockery, why does he (and presumably the performers) deserve death?
I never said they deserved death. I said it doesn’t make sense to push a minority into it like that.
I also said later on that this would’ve ended very differently if this same live performance happened in an Islamic country. I said that to point out that in organizations like IOC act like they can do whatever they want push whatever narrative they like more in Europe, US and other places but then when they do stuff in Islamic suddenly they change their tone. Why the double standards? Why do they believe they can obliterate all religious symbols and push for minorities in the western world but they don’t do the same elsewhere?
Even worse, why would we allow that in the western world? Note that I’m not saying Islamist are right when killing those people because of their ideologies is correct, I’m just saying the IOC and other organizations should respect the majority of people, religions and culture in the western world and act accordingly. I find it really hard to believe that there isn’t a single sane person in the IOC that could’ve just said "no you aren’t going to recreate the The Last Supper with drag queens, that makes no sense in a place where Christians are the majority and drag queens are a minority.
Are you ok?
I am, but the IOC people aren’t for sure. Why would you choose a minority like that doing a performance like that one for the “ceremony”? Since when does it represent anyone besides the said minority? Why would you allow a minority to mock an entire religion that for better or worse is the largest religion in Europe? Makes no sense whatsoever.
Bottom line is: those in power keep pushing these bullshits and then regular, normal people otherwise tolerant and open to minorities and different ideas start to be radicalized - after all everyone has a limit on mockery against their culture.
You still think France, a former colony of Rome, doing the opening ceremonies to The Olympics, a tradition started by the ancient Greeks, using images of Dionysius, The Greek god of wine and festivities, was a mockery of Christianity, in one of the most Catholic countries that’s ever existed. Your DELUSIONAL, maybe consider therapy.
Why do you care so much? It’s not normal, my man. Are you getting out enough? This isn’t healthy.
Because… nobody can say “we’ve lost people” while voting for people who push this kind of bullshit that will then “radicalize” the same people they’ll say that are lost.
Your comments are pretty weird dude, you might want to do some self reflection. This kind of attitude takes a lot of effort and drives people away. You could be doing something better for you right now.
Yet nobody provided an explanation / answer to my question above. Maybe I’m the only one actually doing some self reflection there…
No one has pointed out how stupid your specific post is because the entire internet has spent the past week pointing out how the Olympics opening ceremony had absolutely nothing to do with jesus. If you are choosing to ignore facts so that you can maintain your dumbass persecution complex, then there’s no reason for us to keep pointing it out to you. Instead we’re just going to mock your stupidity.
They had to apologize after the fact, I guess it’s clear.
Just consider it, sometimes it’s better to go out then stew in this. Why are you being so aggressive towards strangers? That’s not normal, my friend.
Nothing about either of your positions are “normal” the ultra rich are fueling a culture war, and the internet trogoldyte laps that shit up.
The rise of trans ideology making its way into the mainstream directly links with the occupy wallstreet movement and gay marriage legalization.
The ultra-rich have created a boogeyman, to distract and divide us, and now you all sit around defending or attacking it.
The average person does not spend their day mass posting on Lemmy and then arguing about gender in the comments.
Pointless.
You’re both useful idiots in this culture war though. You’ve both turned non-issues into hills to die on. And like the other guy said, little by little radicalized “normal” people into picking a side and making it a key part of your personality.
Weirdos.
When the answer to your over caffeinated skreed of internal misunderstandings is ‘you clearly don’t understand what’s going on, this is what’s going on’, then you don’t register that as an answer?
Here answer my question first, why are you the man named Jeffery S. McMillan, so in love with Susan Thorton (22f apprentice cobbler) that your willing to move to Amsterdam on the future date of May 5, 2024? Explain yourself!
What do you have against minorities? Seriously… please explain this.
Nothing, but why should they be on display when they are… a minority?
Because it makes bigots like you mad.
Do you need a Midol? Holy shit the butt hurt over nonbinary people existing.
If anyone wants some fun reading … click through the link they provided and just have fun.
There is so much to look at and just be dumbfounded at
Hey, you’re offending me! Stop it! I’m going to melt down! I’m not a “they”, I’m a “he” . 🌈
I don’t know who has different pronouns than you and hurt you but I hope you find whatever it is you’re looking for.