• @ChonkyOwlbear
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    51 month ago

    Personally I prefer to refer to the broader term “toxic gender roles” as it covers a wider range of interdependent behaviors. I also think it goes deeper than just submissive femininity. It’s the old nature vs nurture argument. It’s not all societal. Some of it is biological. Larger, more physically imposing-looking men being preferred by the majority of women cuts across all times and cultures.

    • @bouh
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      41 month ago

      I don’t buy this nature thing. All societies have been exposed to violence, and women make babies. Then the same causes will lead to the same consequences.

      • @ChonkyOwlbear
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        11 month ago

        So it’s hopeless and cannot be changed then?

        • @bouh
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          41 month ago

          It’s the opposite. Because it’s not nature but culture, it can be changed.

          • @ChonkyOwlbear
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            01 month ago

            Women making babies is culture? And as far as violence being culture, that has never been eliminated from any society and I don’t see it happening any time soon.

            • @bouh
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              11 month ago

              You should certainly try to understand this in a different way, because you obviously misunderstood this badly.

              • @ChonkyOwlbear
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                11 month ago

                I understand it. I thought my sarcasm would be clear. I think it is absurd to say that nature plays no part in human sexual attraction in spite of it affecting literally every other sexually reproductive animal on the planet.