• @jordanlundM
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    -61 month ago

    They’re abusing themselves. Society saying “no, stop it.” is the OPPOSITE of abuse.

    It’s no different than grand-ma being a hoarder. Her kids and grand kids step in to make decisions for her because she clearly can’t on her own.

    It’s just that, in this case, it’s society doing the heavy lifting.

      • @jordanlundM
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        -31 month ago

        When your non-conformity places you and others at risk? Absolutely.

        • @[email protected]
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          41 month ago

          I look forward to a human world without humans harming others. It will occur when humans have eliminated themselves as a species, and that time might not be far off.

          Until then, we can enjoy oppressing the non-conformist and mentally ill. People like Mary Barnes shouldn’t have been allowed to enjoy the freedom she did - she lived in her poo, made art with it, and ended up being a successful artist. Disgusting!!!

          • @jordanlundM
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            -21 month ago

            Forcing mentally ill people into treatment isn’t harm, it’s helping someone incapable of helping themselves.

              • @jordanlundM
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                01 month ago

                That’s not an argument to not treat them, that’s an argument to make treatment better.

            • @[email protected]
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              41 month ago

              As someone with a history of mental health issues who has received forced treatment by family, i beg to differ. Healing started once i got out of the social circles who were trying to force me to be not have problems and i found people who would accept me (mostly) for who i was. I am now much better, no thanks to forced help.

              Healing comes with acceptance, enough acceptance will lead to the person with problems to start noticing how their issues are cause problems and then seeking help on their own becomes available.

              My heart breaks over how limited the supply of patient acceptance is in society; how few people are even willing to try to demonstrate a modicum of empathy for what people with mental health issues are experiencing

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                21 month ago

                Thank you for saying this. As a Psychologist, standing up for the rights of patients - who are ‘disgusting’ and ‘different’ - is a difficult task. When people don’t conform, they are not treated as human. They are problems to be dealt with. It is disgusting.