Seeing the discussion about this get censored heavily was enlightening. The modlog had some of the best comments.

Imane Khelif is an intersex man that has the advantage of male puberty because he has XY chromosomes. He, like many intersex men, was born with ambiguous genitalia that looked like a vulva (but almost certainly didn’t have an actual female reproductive system). He was AFAB in the correct sense of the term, but is relying on incorrect paperwork to compete in women’s boxing.

Lemmy should be horrified at a dude punching women, not providing a smokescreen by saying “But Russia!”. The IBA had the tests done by independent labs that confirmed he is male, possibly with a DSD. They’re corrupt, but not in any way that affects this. If Khelif wants to prove them wrong and ensure that nobody ever believes the IBA ever again, he can get a simple cheek swab and show the world.

Sex is not hard. XY is male, XX is female. If something goes wrong with that, then you’re intersex. Leave women’s sports to women (XX). Intersex people can compete in men’s sports. Anything else is going to push women out of sports completely, because they have a biological disadvantage against men. If the Olympics doesn’t re-institute sex testing, we’re going to end up with “Men’s” and “Men with DSD” divisions.

    • @elbuchoEnglish
      2•3 months ago

      Ok - I’m sold that Khelif is intersex. But again, that doesn’t change anything. The IOC sets the rules for their competitions, and they don’t preclude people with Khelif’s condition from competing, so she did not break any rules as you suggested. Additionally, according to that same coach in that same interview you posted, Khelif had been on a hormone adjustment regimen for the past year, meaning that her muscle mass and testosterone levels are in line with other female athletes of her age. So it’s not like she has an unfair advantage because of increased testosterone. And besides that, it’s not like she’s unbeatable. She’s lost 9 fights to other women, and that was before 2023, when her coach said she started having her hormones regulated. 9 other women beat someone who was living with all of the advantages you ascribe to being intersex.

      Also, your repeated misgendering of her is really shitty of you. She was born, raised, and identifies as female. Gender isn’t just based on what your chromosomes are. You saw a woman win against other women, and you got all hot and bothered about it, despite it being completely within the rules of the competition she was in, despite her having testosterone levels and muscle mass within the range of her competitors, and despite her losing against other women on several previous occasions.