Former President Donald Trump continued his obsession with crowd size on Sunday, claiming photos that showed a large crowd outside Vice President Kamala Harris’ Detroit rally last week were AI-generated. But one photographer who was in attendance confirmed to the Daily Beast that the images his camera captured were very real.
Any chance the Dems will learn from Obama and Harris that younger and energetic candidates that stand firm will energize voters and increase turnout?
Yes, I am assuming Harris will pull in the numbers in November because she is currently doing things overwhelmingly right on the campaign trail. Not perfect, but overall really, really well.
Best I can do is a bunch of DC consultants whose clients are all 120 years old who will say naw this is a one-off.
Seeing as they’re rolling out Bill and fucking Hillary Clinton as speakers at the DNC to follow the already unavoidable speech by historically unpopular Biden my guess would be no.
Biden is the current president. Bill and Hillary Clinton are both still immensely popular. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with showing them throw their support to Harris.
The emphasis was mostly on Hillary, who ended up historically unpopular back in 2016.[1] In fact books [2] have been written on the subject of why Clinton is so hated.
Biden - as president - is an unavoidable speaker and I said as much. I’ll give you Bill is fairly popular, despite being associated with establishment democrats.
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Umm, she won the popular vote. Everyone’s well aware that conservatives hate her, and enough independents in enough swing states hated her to deny her the presidency, but that doesn’t mean that she’s an overall unpopular figure.
Every Democrat I know that voted for her, including myself, fucking hated her as a nominee. Do you honestly believe that Hillary Clinton is popular? That’s like, demonstrably false
According to the primaries she was. In fact, according to the primaries she was nearly in the general for 2008. What’s your data for demonstrably false? Certainly something more concrete than “me and my pals weren’t pleased.”
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You’d have to be intentionally obtuse to believe she was likable. Just Google “Hillary Clinton likability”, this isn’t some revelation. I won’t cite you a single source, because there’s such an overwhelming multitude of sources, articles, polls, etc. if you are really at the point of “show me the data proving Hillary Clinton’s unlikability”, then you’re already ignoring mountains of data and won’t bat an eye at any source I send you. But feel free to Google it, it’s been documented extensively over the last decade.
“There’s a lot, people are saying.” Okay, thank you.
Those independent votes are as important this election as they were in 2016, though.
That’s absolutely true, of course. But that doesn’t mean showing unity between old-guard, establishment Democrats and more progressive factions will be a bad thing. For one, Clinton’s image has improved substantially compared to the orange turd. For another, this will definitely be seen as a positive, passing-of-the-torch kind of deal.
In fact, I’m leaning towards the opinion that denying the Clintons opportunities to speak in support of Harris would have been seen as divisive at a time when optimism and unity are driving her campaign. And independents definitely like to see optimism and unity.
Not trying to be combative here but do you have any sources? It’s been hard finding recent data, but in 2018 her favorability was still very low. [1] The best I can find is 19% (compared to Harris 29%) backing Hillary as nominee should Biden drop out back in February. [2]
I can see your arguments, but I’m also wary of halting the momentum of the campaign, which has somehow managed to position itself as new and fresh and unburdened by what has been (establishment democrats).
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No worries, I’ll never be upset by requests for citations. Those are always legitimate to ask for.
According to YouGov, her current popularity is 42%, her “Disliked By” rating is 38%, and 18% feel neutral about her. I’d assume those numbers shift when looking only at Democrats and independents, but regardless, it’s quite a distance from her 2018 favorability ratings. Source: https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/explore/public_figure/Hillary_Clinton
So historically unpopular that she got more votes than the guy who “won” the election?
Dems held their nose and voted for her to try to avoid trump. She is historically unpopular.
Fair enough, I should have considered that!
I’m hoping that they take a swing at all 50 states plus DC. Dean may be known primarily for his scream, but his 50 State Strategy was a good idea.