• sunzu
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    03 months ago

    Anyone who had a social security and blood pulse could go to college and that’s what happened.

    1/3 failed out,1/3 doing jobs which don’t require a college degree.

    1/3 benefited to varying degree.

    Do you think we needed note millennials in college.

      • sunzu
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        03 months ago

        I am not a conservative wtf… my body of work speaks for itself. What are you basing this clown take on?

        they don’t speak to the qualitative benefit of educating a population.

        This is benefit in the room with us right now?

        All I see is increasingly improvised and indebted population, working longer hours, getting less benefits… people are not forming families. People can’t afford rent.

        Now show me this benefit you are talking about, dear!

        What is the qualitative risk of an educated population?

        Debt slavery which solid part of millennials is currently suffering.

        • NeuromancerOPM
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          -23 months ago

          All I see is increasingly improvised and indebted population, working longer hours, getting less benefits… people are not forming families. People can’t afford rent.

          Not every job requires a college degree, but since we have made it available to anyone with a pulse, employers are pushing for them even when they provide no value. I have seen a stupid job posting for a master’s degree for a 20-an-hour job. The degree isn’t required for a license or some other practical reason.

          • sunzu
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            23 months ago

            , but since we have made it available to anyone with a pulse

            Who is this “we”? Are you owner of a company? Because I am not, I made not such decisions. Did you you?

            Employers start pushing for this shit starting 40 years ago and people respond as manufacturing jobs go eroded. so THEY made it a requirement for secretary needing an English major… trying getting that job with out a BA lol

            • NeuromancerOPM
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              -23 months ago

              We, as in the collective America. We voted for the people who decided to make loans available to everyone.

              • sunzu
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                43 months ago

                Americans have marginal impact on any policy fed government pushes.

                Colleges collude with industry to create debt slaves here though

      • @[email protected]
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        -23 months ago

        If we’re talking about altering society on a mass scale, you’re damned right I care about measurable outcomes.

        I value freedom. I value economic consent. If you’re going to use centralized power to forcibly trade me something else for a loss of those two, the the other thing needs to be measurable.

          • @[email protected]
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            -23 months ago

            You were characterizing what I value, as a conservative. I’m agreeing; I’m not interested in “qualitative benefits”, that are not also quantifiable. Use of government power to alter the world must be justified with measurable metrics.

    • NeuromancerOPM
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      -23 months ago

      That is the problem—too many unqualified people in the pipeline.

      • sunzu
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        23 months ago

        The problem is that there are not enough well paying jobs to support this “educated” population esp with a ton of debt.

        • @[email protected]
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          -13 months ago

          China created a booming solar industry by subsidizing it heavily. We can do that too with other industries, and the subsidy can come in the form of trades education.

          • sunzu
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            13 months ago

            Obama subsidized solar too… What do we have to show for it?

            Again, why should impoverished taxpayer subsidize the capex of property owner? In free entperise and private capitalist society why is we paying here?