• sunzu
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      03 months ago

      I am not a conservative wtf… my body of work speaks for itself. What are you basing this clown take on?

      they don’t speak to the qualitative benefit of educating a population.

      This is benefit in the room with us right now?

      All I see is increasingly improvised and indebted population, working longer hours, getting less benefits… people are not forming families. People can’t afford rent.

      Now show me this benefit you are talking about, dear!

      What is the qualitative risk of an educated population?

      Debt slavery which solid part of millennials is currently suffering.

      • NeuromancerOPM
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        -23 months ago

        All I see is increasingly improvised and indebted population, working longer hours, getting less benefits… people are not forming families. People can’t afford rent.

        Not every job requires a college degree, but since we have made it available to anyone with a pulse, employers are pushing for them even when they provide no value. I have seen a stupid job posting for a master’s degree for a 20-an-hour job. The degree isn’t required for a license or some other practical reason.

        • sunzu
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          23 months ago

          , but since we have made it available to anyone with a pulse

          Who is this “we”? Are you owner of a company? Because I am not, I made not such decisions. Did you you?

          Employers start pushing for this shit starting 40 years ago and people respond as manufacturing jobs go eroded. so THEY made it a requirement for secretary needing an English major… trying getting that job with out a BA lol

          • NeuromancerOPM
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            -23 months ago

            We, as in the collective America. We voted for the people who decided to make loans available to everyone.

            • sunzu
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              43 months ago

              Americans have marginal impact on any policy fed government pushes.

              Colleges collude with industry to create debt slaves here though

    • @[email protected]
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      If we’re talking about altering society on a mass scale, you’re damned right I care about measurable outcomes.

      I value freedom. I value economic consent. If you’re going to use centralized power to forcibly trade me something else for a loss of those two, the the other thing needs to be measurable.

        • @[email protected]
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          You were characterizing what I value, as a conservative. I’m agreeing; I’m not interested in “qualitative benefits”, that are not also quantifiable. Use of government power to alter the world must be justified with measurable metrics.