This and the online-only are the reasons I no longer use onshape. While I don’t mind for a majority of my stuff to be public it just doesn’t make sense for everything and then you can’t even use it e.g on longer train rides without internet.
I did a quasi-deep dive into licensing terms of the various suites. OnShape’s free tier is particularly clumsy, and on a facial reading bars you from using your own designs commercially, but allows you (and literally every other user) free rein on other people’s designs. It’s quite odd and will probably need litigation to sort out. Then they have nothing between the free tier and the $1800/year tier.
Fusion gives you, IIRC, a grace zone of a thousand bucks of revenue a year before it counts as commercial and you have to get the $600/year paid plan, which seems suspiciously close to how much profit a no-overhead side hustle might pull from $1000 of sales. Solidworks hobbyist gives you $2k of profit grace per year, and when combined with a Titans of CNC discount, makes it a pretty good option for the “let me sell a couple of things on Etsy crowd,” but it’s a much bigger price jump than Fusion if you need to get a commercial license (basically about $2000 a year, I think… sensing a pattern here).
Solid Edge keeps it simple and just says that the free version is for non-commercial use only, though as a locally installed app I’m surprised it’s not more popular.
I was continuing to struggle with FreeCAD, though it’s getting better with every weekly release, and they have a little bit of outside money coming into the project now. Still, I “treated” myself to a $700 permanent Alibre license. I like the workflow and the focus on the workbenches I actually use, and after ten payments I’ll be able to use this particular version however I like for as long as it runs. Not perfect, being closed source and Windows, but they’re a responsive small company in a crowded space, so I don’t think they’re going to fuck over the paying customers too badly.
The free versions of solid edge are buggy as hell, unfortunately. Like, “I can’t zoom in because the text grows to fill the whole screen” buggy. It’s very odd.
Damn them too? I guess I shouldn’t be surprised they’re both in the enshittification olympics. I moved away from F360 in favor on Onshape a while ago but started muddling my way through FreeCAD when I heard about Onshape.
Yeah I’ve been meaning to try FreeCAD in anger but every time I try it out I find it clumsy, awkward and limited. I’m hoping the new organisation will allow them to get more funding, I’d really love an actually good open source CAD.
I found Onshape to be quite nice. It was relatively easy to translate skills from Fusion to it after a few YouTube videos.
How is this better?
This and the online-only are the reasons I no longer use onshape. While I don’t mind for a majority of my stuff to be public it just doesn’t make sense for everything and then you can’t even use it e.g on longer train rides without internet.
Whilst this is fair criticism, I was responding to complaints about the UX in other CADs.
It is but you can’t sell any models you design on the free version because “TeRmS oF sErViCe”.
That’s on the free license. Fusion360, to which this thread is offering an alternative, has the same limitation.
https://www.autodesk.com/support/technical/article/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/Do-I-qualify-for-free-use-of-Fusion-360.html
I did a quasi-deep dive into licensing terms of the various suites. OnShape’s free tier is particularly clumsy, and on a facial reading bars you from using your own designs commercially, but allows you (and literally every other user) free rein on other people’s designs. It’s quite odd and will probably need litigation to sort out. Then they have nothing between the free tier and the $1800/year tier.
Fusion gives you, IIRC, a grace zone of a thousand bucks of revenue a year before it counts as commercial and you have to get the $600/year paid plan, which seems suspiciously close to how much profit a no-overhead side hustle might pull from $1000 of sales. Solidworks hobbyist gives you $2k of profit grace per year, and when combined with a Titans of CNC discount, makes it a pretty good option for the “let me sell a couple of things on Etsy crowd,” but it’s a much bigger price jump than Fusion if you need to get a commercial license (basically about $2000 a year, I think… sensing a pattern here).
Solid Edge keeps it simple and just says that the free version is for non-commercial use only, though as a locally installed app I’m surprised it’s not more popular.
I was continuing to struggle with FreeCAD, though it’s getting better with every weekly release, and they have a little bit of outside money coming into the project now. Still, I “treated” myself to a $700 permanent Alibre license. I like the workflow and the focus on the workbenches I actually use, and after ten payments I’ll be able to use this particular version however I like for as long as it runs. Not perfect, being closed source and Windows, but they’re a responsive small company in a crowded space, so I don’t think they’re going to fuck over the paying customers too badly.
Thank you so much for this!!
The free versions of solid edge are buggy as hell, unfortunately. Like, “I can’t zoom in because the text grows to fill the whole screen” buggy. It’s very odd.
Thanks for the detailed report! 💪
Damn them too? I guess I shouldn’t be surprised they’re both in the enshittification olympics. I moved away from F360 in favor on Onshape a while ago but started muddling my way through FreeCAD when I heard about Onshape.
Yeah I’ve been meaning to try FreeCAD in anger but every time I try it out I find it clumsy, awkward and limited. I’m hoping the new organisation will allow them to get more funding, I’d really love an actually good open source CAD.
I’d say that it’s probably helping already. I am relearning CAD after near 20 years and it’s much improved over the last time I tried it around 2018.
That’s great! I’ll give it a go again soon.