• @Fondots
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    156 months ago

    The big ones that really cross at least a few age brackets, have wide general recognition and probably aren’t going anywhere in the near future (I may take some liberties with what I consider to be a franchise) in no particular order-

    Star wars

    James Bond

    Lord of the rings

    Sherlock Holmes

    Batman

    Superman

    Spiderman

    Mission Impossible

    Mario

    Zelda

    Pokemon

    Indiana Jones

    Back to the Future

    The Karate Kid

    A Nightmare on Elm Street

    Friday the 13th

    Child’s Play

    It

    Rambo

    Rocky

    Jurassic Park

    The Matrix

    The Terminator

    Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

    Transformers

    The Simpsons

    Barbie

    GI Joe

    He-Man/Masters of the universe

    Mickey Mouse

    Toy Story

    Looney Tunes

    King Kong

    Godzilla

    Planet of the Apes

    Mad Max

    The Muppets

    The Godfather

    Ghostbusters

    Alien

    Star Trek

    Robocop

    Frankenstein

    Dracula

    Tarzan

    Conan the Barbarian

    Jaws

    Harry Potter

    The Incredible Hulk

    The Dollars Trilogy

    Sesame Street

    The Hannibal Lecter series

    MASH

    I think in general, most people have at least heard of these properties, would probably recognize at least a few of the main characters, objects, logos, memes, quotes, the theme song, etc. they’ve probably made some reference to them, and could give at least a vague explanation about what they’re about or what the major themes are whether or not they’ve actually seen/read the source material

    In general, I’m kind of counting a franchise as something that has had at least 3 major installments, iterations, episodes, series, remakes, reboots, etc. so a stand alone book, movie, etc. wouldn’t count, nor would a book or movie and a sequel, a book and a movie adaptation, etc. A book, a movie adaptation, and a reboot movie would, a film trilogy would,a tv series would, a movie that’s been rebooted/remade a couple times would.

    Barbie feels like a weird one on this list to me, unlike GI Joe who’s had pretty big movies and cartoons and such that make it pretty hard to argue that it’s a franchise, most of Barbie’s notoriety comes from the dolls themselves and I’d be kind of hesitant to label a line of toys as a franchise instead of a brand, sure there’s been animated movies and video games and such, but none of them had really been particularly noteworthy. And I wouldn’t feel quite right labeling, for example, Lego as a franchise despite having had pretty considerable success with movies and video games and such. But the character of Barbie, branding, marketing, etc. kind of puts her in the same league as Mickey mouse and I just felt like she belonged on the list.

    Some of the classic characters - Frankenstein, Dracula, Sherlock Holmes, are arguably not really a franchise, there’s not necessarily one company or person who owns their likeness and is marketing them, but they loom large enough in the public consciousness that I think they deserve to be mentioned in this list as well

    I tried to keep this relatively universal, though I’m sure my biases as a cis straight white American millennial male showed through in places. There’s a lot of franchises that form pillars of pop culture for specific demographics but not necessarily in general, and I tried to stay away from them, but a few of them just felt significant enough to me to warrant inclusion, in particular I kind of question how much general appeal He-Man has, for example, but I feel like if you say “He-Man” everyone has a mental image of the character seared into their brain (personally, I’m not sure I’ve ever even seen a whole episode of He-Man or really engaged with any masters of the universe media in general, but there he is in my brain and I don’t really know how he got there)

    • @paddirn
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      36 months ago

      As a 40+ year old white American, I agree with most of this list (I’d reduce “Hannibal Lecter series” down to just “Silence of the Lambs”), but if I were to ask my 6–12 year old kids about these, I feel like they wouldn’t know who 1/3rd of these are. I’d be curious to see if there was a common thread or set of threads between all of these that point to what traits our Western society value/avoid or what makes a successful franchise in the West.

      • @Fondots
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        16 months ago

        They probably haven’t seen a lot of them and may not recognize the names off the top of their head, but I have a hunch that if/when they do see them, damn each and every one is going to give them a couple little aha moments where they recognize that something else they’ve seen has parodied or referenced these movies, or that it’s where a meme comes from.

        And I’d agree that Silence of the Lambs is probably the most important of the series by a longshot, but one book and a movie adaptation does not a franchise make in my mind and I think that Hannibal Lecter is a big enough character in the public mind (because the Silence of the Lambs movie) that the series as a whole kind of gets a pass

            • @paddirn
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              46 months ago

              Rumspringa is a rite of passage for the Amish, I think they’re saying you’re disconnected from society, though that kind of gets at what I was saying about my kids. Younger generations are more connected now than any previous generation, but they just don’t care as much about what the older generations were into. While you’re aware of most of the big franchises through cultural osmosis, like what the original commenter was saying, it’s not a priority. For me and my generation that feels odd I think, at least growing up for me I went through a period of trying to get exposed to those big cultural landmarks, music, movies, tv, and books. I assumed those things must’ve gotten popular with the older cool kids for a reason, so I wanted to experience it for myself, if just to be able to understand the odd reference when it came up.

    • Hegar
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      26 months ago

      I’m of an age where I agree with almost everything on this list. I don’t know that It deserves a place though, and despite extensive media consumption I’ve never heard of The Dollars Trilogy or Child’s Play.

      • @Fondots
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        16 months ago

        Child’s play- Chucky the killer doll

        Dollars Trilogy - A Fistfull of Dollars, For a Few Dollars More, and The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. I did kind of waffle on this one a bit, but I ultimately decided to include it if for no other reason than because whether youve actually seen it or even realize it you probably have The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly’s theme song seared into your head as pretty much the western movie song.

      • @Fondots
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        16 months ago

        I think by the definition I gave they’d qualify as a franchise, although for those 3 properties it kind of feels a little wrong to me and maybe I need to rethink my definition a little because they’re kind of self-contained shows, they don’t really branch out into anything larger than themselves.

        Personally I think the IT crowds appeal is somewhat limited, at least in the US (it may have more widespread appeal in its native UK, I genuinely don’t know,) to sort of the nerd/techy demographic. The lines certainly get blurry because nerdy types have a lot of influence on how memes spread, but I don’t know that it has the same impact on pop culture in general as the other two.

        I’m also not certain how much staying power friends has outside of the people who were watching it or at least remember it being on when it first aired. I’m not exactly plugged into what gen z and alpha are watching, but i don’t think I hear it come up amongst them very often, and I’m not even sure younger millennials care for it all that much.

        The office I think has probably cemented it’s place in pop culture whether we consider it a franchise or not. Which is kind of a shame for me personally, because I could never get into it.

        • @bandwidthcrisis
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          16 months ago

          The IT Crowd is boosted by having a quote that’s genuinely a best first-response to IT problems.